Date: Wed, 18 Jan 95 10:33:05 MST From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) To: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Cc: wollman@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu, freebsd-hackers@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: CVS stuff Message-ID: <9501181733.AA02235@cs.weber.edu> In-Reply-To: <9501180413.AA00168@cs.weber.edu> from "Terry Lambert" at Jan 17, 95 09:13:22 pm
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> > I don't seem to be getting through to you, Terry, and I can't seem to > > understand what is so difficult about the idea that, in a distributed > > community of users dispersed throughout the world, it is more > > important to be able to communicate with other people about your > > problems than to have those problems reported in fifteen different > > languages. Some late breaking data from the BSD counter: ] There are 915 registered users of free BSD versions ] ] ] PLACES WHERE FREE BSD IS USED ] ========================== ] Self Other Sum %Sum Place ] 564 29 593 64% home ] 247 10 257 27% work ] 123 1 124 13% somewhere ] 58 0 58 6% school ] 7 0 7 0% not used ] -------------------------- ] 885 37 922 100% TOTAL ] ] NOTE: Some people use free BSD in multiple places, so the total is not ] the sum of the columns. ] ] COUNTRIES WHERE FREE BSD IS USED ] ============================= ] Country Self Other Sum MPop Free BSD/M ] --------------------------------------------------------------- ] 1 is Iceland 2 0 2 0.3 7.9 ] 2 no Norway 16 0 16 4.3 3.7 ] 3 fi Finland 17 0 17 5.0 3.4 ] 4 au Australia 52 0 52 17.1 3.0 ] 5 se Sweden 25 0 25 8.6 2.9 ] 6 nl Netherlands 28 0 28 14.9 1.9 ] 7 nz New Zealand 6 0 6 3.4 1.8 ] 8 us USA 395 9 404 249.6 1.6 ] 9 de Germany 103 2 105 79.1 1.3 ] 10 ee Estonia 2 0 2 1.6 1.2 ] 11 ca Canada 33 0 33 26.6 1.2 ] 12 dk Denmark 6 0 6 5.1 1.2 ] 13 ie Ireland 4 0 4 3.5 1.1 ] 14 il Israel 5 0 5 6.3 0.8 ] 15 gb Great Britain 40 0 40 57.2 0.7 ] 16 hk Hong Kong 4 0 4 5.9 0.7 ] 17 za South Africa 16 0 16 30.2 0.5 ] 18 at Austria 4 0 4 7.6 0.5 ] 19 cz Czech Rebublic 5 0 5 10.0 0.5 ] 20 fr France 24 2 26 56.2 0.4 ] 21 sg Singapore 1 0 1 2.7 0.4 ] 22 tw Taiwan 6 0 6 20.3 0.3 ] 23 jp Japan 30 11 41 123.3 0.2 ] 24 gr Greece 2 0 2 10.1 0.2 ] 25 hu Hungary 2 2 4 10.5 0.2 ] 26 ch Switzerland 1 0 1 6.7 0.1 ] 27 su Soviet Union (former) 15 5 20 147.4 0.1 ] 28 br Brazil 10 5 15 158.2 0.1 ] 29 my Malaysia 1 0 1 18.0 0.1 ] 30 pl Poland 2 0 2 38.4 0.1 ] 31 it Italy 3 0 3 57.7 0.1 ] 32 es Spain 2 0 2 39.5 0.1 ] 33 kr Korea (South) 1 0 1 43.1 0.0 ] 34 ua Ukraine 1 0 1 51.9 0.0 ] 35 th Thailand 1 0 1 57.6 0.0 ] 36 in India 3 0 3 844.0 0.0 ] 37 xe Europe (Somewhere in it) 1 0 1 320.0 0.0 ] 38 xx Unknown 6 1 7 5000.0 0.0 ] 39 xw The World (Somewhere in i 3 0 3 5000.0 0.0 I count this as 36 seperate countries. I count au, nz, us, gb as English speaking countries; Canada and Ireland aren't 100%, though I suppose you could debate them. That's sum=502 (or sum=539, if you are debating)... or 54% (58%) of the installed base in English speaking countries. The US is not even a majority (43%), so if we start arguing about the spelling of colour... If we go by installed country (not logical if we are marketeers, granted), the US is 3% of the countries, and English speaking countries are a total of 11% (17%) of the countries. Note that 922 is probably far short of the actual numbers. The following was recently reported for download only (not including CDROM sales and not including download from mirrors): ] jkh@wcarchive-> zcat xferlog.gz |awk -f report-FreeBSD.awk ] Day Category Total xfers Total Size ] --- -------- ----------- ---------- ] Jan 14 2.0R 3196 files 1228 MB ] Jan 15 2.0R 4072 files 1308 MB ] Jan 16 2.0R 4527 files 1618 MB ] Jan 17 2.0R 131 files 26 MB [ ... ] ] The Jan 17th figures are bogus as the logs were rolled in the ] morning of the 17th. And this was for a 3 day period (if we throw out the 17th). Actually, I'd like to see accounting on the kernel boot disk image alone. That would give a better idea of the number of machines, assuming a download == install. If we could get reported it by requesting country network address suffix, that would be nice too. I think an adequate case can be made for internationalization and for providing locale information (including message catalogs). Also note that the counter is biased toward US responses, given the nature of the net in general, anyway, since it can only count responses from those who are net connected and aware of the counter -- and the counter is advertised only via the mailing lists and usenet, both of which have a huge English bias. This can only serve to strengthen the case for internationalization. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.
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