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Date:      Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:23:03 -0700
From:      Adam Weinberger <adam@vectors.cx>
To:        Benjamin Krueger <benjamin@seattleFenix.net>
Cc:        sagacious <sagacious@unixhideout.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Cell phone crap.
Message-ID:  <20020809192303.GS49844@vectors.cx>
In-Reply-To: <20020809030407.I36656@mail.seattleFenix.net>
References:  <20020809011505.H36656@mail.seattleFenix.net> <000201c23f84$07c948a0$0a01a8c0@MIKESBOX> <20020809030407.I36656@mail.seattleFenix.net>

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mike, i'm appalled that you'd choose this as a response to somebody's
well-thought-out and intelligent response to you.

you and i have already talked about this about a month ago. you're
lapsing again. check yourself, mike.

-Adam


>> (08.09.2002 @ 0304 PST): Benjamin Krueger said, in 3.5K: <<
> 
>   I'm not prone to disparage a person's reputation, however I believe it fair to
> relay a response to what I thought was an honest and respectful suggestion. I
> only do so in hopes that other folks might steer clear of engaging with this
> individual and wasting their time.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> * sagacious (sagacious@unixhideout.com) [020809 02:05]:
> > Go fuck yourself.
> > 
> > sagacious (Mike)
> > Network administrator
> > The unixhideout network
> > http://www.unixhideout.com
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Benjamin Krueger [mailto:benjamin@seattleFenix.net] 
> > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 4:15 AM
> > To: Mike
> > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Subject: Re: Cell phone crap.
> > 
> > * Mike (root@unixhideout.com) [020808 09:19]:
> > > 
> > > > At 2002-08-08T08:16:09Z, "Mike" <root@unixhideout.com> writes:
> > > >
> > > >> I'm not on this list to do the FreeBSD's teams bitch work.
> > > >
> > > > You know, I think that you just guaranteed that *noone* connected
> > with
> > > > FreeBSD is going to help you out on this one.  I don't think that
> > > > anyone's getting paid to do their "bitch work", so I don't know what
> > > > crack you smoked to make you think that they owe it to you.
> > > >
> > > >> Make a spam team that does nothing but moderate the list's and ban
> > > >> losers that spam.
> > > >
> > > > Excellent idea!  When do you start?
> > > > --
> > > > Kirk Strauser
> > > >
> > > "bitch work" was a little out of line. I apologize. But i think you
> > took
> > > it the wrong way. What i really meant by that was i dont feel i or
> > anyone
> > > else should have to put wasted effort into something that an
> > administrator
> > > with correct privledges could easily stop in the very beginning before
> > it
> > > becomes that much of a problem. Again, none of my domains get spam
> > that
> > > isnt easily taken care of. Your crack comment was cute. I now know the
> > > majority of what im dealing with, and why these lists get spam.
> > 
> >   These lists already employ standard practice spam filtering methods.
> > Sometimes
> > stuff still gets through, but that number is dwarfed by the number of
> > spams it
> > successfully prevents. You fail to realize that there is no "authority"
> > here.
> > The folks who maintain the lists are volunteers. Everyone is a
> > volunteer. If
> > you would like to help, then by all means offer your services.
> > 
> >   You have no idea what the "majority of what you're dealing with" is.
> > There
> > literally a few ten thousands of subscribers to the list. Your broad
> > generalization of an attempted insult isn't cute or productive. I'm sure
> > folks
> > would appreciate it if you kept it to a minimum so we can keep the noise
> > down. 
> > The lists don't get spam because somebody disagrees with you. The lists
> > get spam
> > because spammers are still in business.
> > 
> >   Perhaps it would be more efficient and productive if you went and
> > whined at
> > the spammers and their ISPs instead of subjecting a few thousand people
> > to
> > your incessant whining that a FREE resource maintained by Volunteers who
> > are
> > not compensated in any material way for their efforts is not up to your
> > personal standards.
> > 
> > With particular respect,
> > 
> > -- 
> > Benjamin Krueger
> > 
> > "Life is far too important a thing ever to talk seriously about."
> > - Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)
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>> end of "Re: Cell phone crap." from Benjamin Krueger <<


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