Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:58:26 -0500 From: KapuT <malartre@aei.ca> To: Mark Mayo <mark@vmunix.com> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4 Newbies Message-ID: <35202392.F461A64B@aei.ca> References: <351C71D9.52629A74@aei.ca> <19980329224312.21163@vmunix.com>
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Mark Mayo wrote: > On Fri, Mar 27, 1998 at 10:43:21PM -0500, KapuT wrote: > > I am under FreeBSD what we can call a newbie. > > I have not finded so much information on how to start. > > What should I do the first time I see Login: or # > > I was obliged to ask to a friends. But its not all people who have > > friends hehehe > > And FreeBSD dont take in charge newbies... Its hard I think. > > Maybie you think I'm lazy hehehe > > But I think I have readed a lot for non critical information. > > If you would take a look at the explanations in the "Running FreeBSD" > chapter of http://www.vmunix.com/fbsd-book/ I would appreciate it - > I wrote this part specifically for those who aren't familiar at all > with how a user actually gets work done in the UNIX environment. :-) > > TIA, > -Mark > Your page his great but not finished heheheOk, but what I think his than there should be 2 book hehehe I dont understand why people always put hardware with Login: My point of view is not clear... I am not english and dont always know word but I will try :-) Hum, let think about a new user. He buy FreeBSD, after that, he find a *lot* of information on *how to* install it. Then, he his stuck: he dont even nead hardware information, but where are the damn info about how to Login: ???He was from Mac or Win95, so dont ask him to much right now! now, he search a lot, and he find your page. Then he find a black page, with a lot of link and non-critical information for him... what he should do? He get *schizophrenic* (dont know if its that in english) in your html world. Then he find a page with Login, and after that he finally find 3 km above the shutdown command... So now, he dont press the reboot button hehehe Hum, they need a real easy start, because if not, they will reboot under Win95. And dont say to me "They are lazy" please... I think than this his why FreeBSD sucks for Win95 users. ***They go first on freebsd.org, and they see the handbook. but there his nothing for them in that handbook...*** You really need to start a chat channel where you could see what newbie think about it... Personnaly, my effort are for doing a manual for newbies, with no hardware. Just commands and stuff like that An easy manual where all people can change anything with <FORM> command. Since you have seen it, I have changed a lot of thing. And there his now the starting point: Login: And a really cute way to emulated a pict of freebsd with <TABLE> and black background :-) I really wish to help all of advanced user who dont understand why we are lost :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Sorry, my mom will kill me if I dont go eat! cya KapuT > > > > I have finded than the Handbook where there is a part for newbie his not > > really made for newbie. When you do a doc for newbie, do it in a newbie > > stile... like > > http://www.ca.freebsd.org/tutorials/newuser/newuser.html -->August 15, > > 1997 > > > > So I have started an interactive project where anyone can easily add > > parts to the page, so its easy to correct bugs and errata and to put > > more information. I have used html <FORM> for doing it interactive. > > > > And I think than I have a real approach for newbies. > > FreeBSD for Newbies > > > > http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/newbies.html > > > > KapuT > > Its dark! > > -- > > *************************** > > malartre@aei.ca > > www.aei.ca/~malartre/ > > ICQ #4224434 > > IRCNet #quebec #wage #mid > > Undernet #FreeBSD > > Windows95 > > Unix FreeBSD-2.2.6 > > *************************** > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Mark Mayo mark@vmunix.com > RingZero Comp. http://www.vmunix.com/mark > > finger mark@vmunix.com for my PGP key and GCS code > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > "The problem is how do you build tools that understand your programs > at a deeper semantic level." - James Gosling -- *************************** malartre@aei.ca www.aei.ca/~malartre/ ICQ #4224434 IRCNet #quebec #wage #mid Undernet #FreeBSD Windows95 Unix FreeBSD-2.2.6 *************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message
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