Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 16:16:48 +0100 From: =?utf-8?Q?Klaus_K=C3=BCchemann?= <maciphone2@googlemail.com> To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: arm64 as Tier 1 for FreeBSD 13 Message-ID: <8BE05A88-D216-4023-AC6E-D6431C7BB3E1@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <B1F155C4-5C20-4E33-9420-DF7D67253083@gid.co.uk> References: <CAPyFy2Aa6Uj0nyQ1Y_KPLd7%2BROJ4xW5i-SpctV1sRVK_BivPHw@mail.gmail.com> <CAPyFy2D91v7SwjZOgMG0a9V%2BH6GVCF8NHKp341N8mwnCvA71cA@mail.gmail.com> <CAPyFy2BP3hFHuFJyo2M-5pc0%2BCmRiyym1TZ81P5xicR4zED1JQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAPyFy2BXWPVOJo%2BGOf83sZFrPHE80-QvdHeWrhi%2BTdj0KDnThg@mail.gmail.com> <17938.1575444597@critter.freebsd.dk> <20191204092402.GA82492@fuz.su> <D140BA2A-71F3-4574-9015-675950705AF2@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <78425.1580332298@critter.freebsd.dk> <20200129222907.3ccaf4c23fe8509e3f9cdfe4@bidouilliste.net> <84926.1580333803@critter.freebsd.dk> <B1F155C4-5C20-4E33-9420-DF7D67253083@gid.co.uk>
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> Am 30.01.2020 um 14:07 schrieb Bob Bishop <rb@gid.co.uk>: >=20 > Hi, >=20 >> On 29 Jan 2020, at 21:36, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> = wrote: >>=20 >> -------- >> In message = <20200129222907.3ccaf4c23fe8509e3f9cdfe4@bidouilliste.net>, Emmanuel = Vadot writes: >>=20 >>>> RPi's are a LOT easier to get hold of for hackers and in particular >>>> for educators. >>>=20 >>> In what way ? >>> Real answer only. >>=20 >> 1. Schools can get them through their usual suppliers of educational >> material, with a pretty decent discount, and with educational >> courses and materials, pretty much ready to go. >>=20 >> 2. Most "maker-space" atuned electronics pushers carry them. >>=20 >> 3. Big electronics pushers carry them. >>=20 >> In re 1-3: No customs processing of shipment involved. >>=20 >> 4. Cost, including shipping is below "trivial" threshold in most >> organizations. >=20 > RPi zero in particular is cheap enough to treat as a component. >=20 >> --=20 >> Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 >> phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 >> FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe =20 >> Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by = incompetence. >=20 > -- > Bob Bishop > rb@gid.co.uk >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-arm@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arm > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-arm-unsubscribe@freebsd.org=E2=80=9C Well, with all respect but this discussion is so extremely useless. .. In fact FreeBSD boots from uSD on the RPI4. from my quick reading of the = sources afaik it was K. Evans who made it bootable with CPU-hacks and E. = Vadot who made the u-boot ports. The only problem seems to be that there is no public HowTo for = uSD-preparation, If I find the time I'll post a HowTo e.g. in the fbsd-forums for = stopping=20 the public user whining over the RPI and instead help the fbsd-project = to get drivers to work :-)=20 =46rom the moment it has network(1st WIFI) it'll be a usable = fbsd-gadget. If somebody answers here : " yes, I want a HowTo and will help the = fbsd-project", I'll write a HowTo. ;-). If nobody wants to boot FreeBSD on the crappy = RPI4 we can't help out :-) Regards Klaus=
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