Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 20:38:09 +0100 From: Mark R V Murray <mark@grondar.org> To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> Cc: Arthur Mesh <arthurmesh@gmail.com>, secteam@freebsd.org, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: random(4) plugin infrastructure for mulitple RNG in a modular fashion Message-ID: <50BE6942-CC39-413C-8E14-C6B93440901B@grondar.org> In-Reply-To: <7018AAA9-0A88-430F-96B7-867E5F529B36@bsdimp.com> References: <20130807182858.GA79286@dragon.NUXI.org> <20130807192736.GA7099@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <CAGE5yCq%2Bs6kYtVYyxi27RAqPmvpV42nNNykm2%2B2x1EJGCihYXw@mail.gmail.com> <5203968D.7060508@freebsd.org> <7018AAA9-0A88-430F-96B7-867E5F529B36@bsdimp.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On 8 Aug 2013, at 20:25, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: > > On Aug 8, 2013, at 7:01 AM, Andrey Chernov wrote: > >> Many years ago I already suggest to de-modularize random (making it not >> optional), with fallback to yarrow if hardware RNGs can't be probed or >> not configured. > > I think that the 'fallback to yarrow' is necessary here. My current inclination is to make Yarrow the basic device (or "Fortuna Lite", but that is a problem for MUCH later), and make the hardware devices feed Yarrow, if they are present. Fortuna will then be an optional replacement for Yarrow, and it will keep the ability to source input from hardware RNGs if they are present. I still want to get back something like the original get_cyclecount(); simple and quick. I don't care what its called, but out doesn't need to be the massive thing that the current get_cyclecount() has grown to be on x86. rdtsc(), I think it was. > P.S. Where 'yarrow' can easily be read as 'the best software RNG we've implemented' should that change to something better in the future. While Fortuna matures, I'd like to keep it as an option, not make it a replacement. M -- Mark R V Murray [-- Attachment #2 --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQCVAwUBUgPzqN58vKOKE6LNAQryQAQAuTLK8DFzVd/O4iCHc7PAzbHmOC7CVTIU Igw82LLB+zgQG88UkwVuf2oZb3l9/u3Atgb2L+3dQpAQm1/oWKHrQA2b/pincHgJ 5Dp7y2GvLwPI2dRV2DG8W6Ecxl5dqWOsuQAhVuI/cDkxSHBfuWjCsylETBCjCxLt K4C/GN532zQ= =vaAm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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