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Date:      Thu, 5 Jun 2008 01:30:29 +0100
From:      "Steven Hartland" <killing@multiplay.co.uk>
To:        "Jo Rhett" <jrhett@netconsonance.com>
Cc:        Edwin Groothuis <edwin@mavetju.org>, Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>, FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3
Message-ID:  <7B8FD1A1E7DA49DFA68252BF9C74AE6F@multiplay.co.uk>
References:  <9B7FE91B-9C2E-4732-866C-930AC6022A40@netconsonance.com><4846D849.2090005@FreeBSD.org> <20080604204325.GD4701@lava.net><20080604234532.GA89656@k7.mavetju> <458FE12C-AE4D-48F9-8193-4663079CEEF8@netconsonance.com> <84EBEA5D3A1F47E79E8E12C4CF4D0314@multiplay.co.uk> <FB44670E-6F56-44BE-ADC4-23126420FAD8@netconsonance.com>

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jo Rhett" <jrhett@netconsonance.com>
> On Jun 4, 2008, at 5:17 PM, Steven Hartland wrote:
>> I wouldn't be surprised if these are not new bugs, just something
>> that others have noticed later than 6.2 and I'd suggest you actually
>> try 6.3 to see if they are in fact an issue for you.
> 
> I don't have the resources to load up the systems enough to find these  
> problems sitting on my desk.  And I can't risk production resources  
> for problems known and reported on the *EXACT* same hardware.
> 
> "oh but it won't happen to me" isn't a useful methodology in a  
> production environment.
> 
> I mean, seriously, I know the majority of you are happy rebooting your  
> systems 5x daily to run the latest.  I'll do that with my home system,  
> no problem.  But I can't do this in a production environment.

That's unfortunate. One thing you might want to check is are there
any changes in those areas between 6.2 and 6.3 e.g. if its a bug
with a specific driver but said driver has had no commits or
not commits in the specific area then it may be fairly safe to
conclude said bug also exists in 6.2 and if you haven't seen it
there your unlikely to experience it in 6.3.

Without any specifics people will be unable to comment.

    Regards
    Steve

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