Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 00:15:13 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> To: Michael Gmelin <grembo@freebsd.org> Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, Tijl Coosemans <tijl@FreeBSD.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r364113 - head/ports-mgmt/pkg Message-ID: <20140807221513.GX17537@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <20140807204327.25282847@bsd64.grem.de> References: <53e0f0ad.5847.5faaa40c@svn.freebsd.org> <15D20738-E215-4F78-A9CC-5A635D488498@adamw.org> <20140806053647.GL17537@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <7D423316-97A3-44B5-A427-4027EF61FACE@adamw.org> <20140807190501.7ac2db0c@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <20140807171815.GV17537@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20140807204327.25282847@bsd64.grem.de>
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--Er97KPJOrxRt+yKZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 08:43:27PM +0200, Michael Gmelin wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 19:18:15 +0200 > Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> wrote: >=20 > > On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 07:05:01PM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 08:50:49 -0400 Adam Weinberger wrote: > > > > On 6 Aug, 2014, at 1:36, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> > > > > wrote:=20 > > > >> On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 12:46:13AM -0400, Adam Weinberger wrote: > > > >>> On 5 Aug, 2014, at 10:56, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>>> - Directories can be listed in the plist like files they will > > > >>>> be considered like @dirrmtry > > > >>>=20 > > > >>> That one is exciting! Do they still need to appear in the same > > > >>> way (i.e. at the end of the plist, in reverse-order)? > > > >>=20 > > > >> pkg never had this limitation :) > > > >=20 > > > > I am constantly amazed at the tremendous progress that pkgng has > > > > achieved. The problem is, a lot of these improvements aren=E2=80=99t > > > > documented anywhere, so it=E2=80=99s hard to know what new paradigm= s we > > > > have at our disposal! > > > >=20 > > > > Although I suppose that until pkg_install is fully deprecated (< 1 > > > > month now, yay!), it=E2=80=99s best that we not go crazy with incom= patible > > > > plist changes. > > >=20 > > > We should probably have a discussion in September about what to do > > > with the newly acquired freedom. For instance, there are way too > > > many tiny files in the ports tree that slow down subversion > > > operations and take up way too much disk space (smallest file size > > > on default FreeBSD install these days is 4KiB). I think we should > > > move distinfo into the Makefile, combine all pkg-* files into one > > > Pkgfile (using ucl syntax maybe?) and combine patches per feature > > > instead of one patch per file. I'd like to get rid of the files > > > directory too, at least in most cases. > > >=20 > >=20 > > That discussion needs to happen now. > >=20 > > I'll collect the idea after my return from vacations :) > >=20 > > What I have in mind and is going to happen: > > - automatically directory handling no more @dirrm* only the empty > > directory or the one with special credentials will need to be > > specified > > - remove of @exec > > - remove of the mtrees (from the packages) > > - make pkg directly handle plist sub so it become plain > > search&replace instead of dangerous regex > >=20 > > I have more ideas but I will let everyone share his first > >=20 >=20 > I would like to see more features and improvements myself, but we should > be aware that users are starting to use pkg on mission critical systems > now. >=20 > This means that we need to focus on release quality. We can break > pkg-devel all we want, but ports-mgmt/pkg just needs to work. >=20 > That said, I hope you'll enjoy your vacation, you earned it ;) Yes but pkg 1.3 is reavealing tons of problems from the ports tree we need = to fix. Concerning the features yes we were speaking of pkg-devel of course :) Bapt --Er97KPJOrxRt+yKZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlPj+nEACgkQ8kTtMUmk6Ex26gCgoQzl1T3w01fLyOam5qpgDVP/ x74An2uKZKSwsnTboJVcdAlveWT2ZJqV =FhK6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Er97KPJOrxRt+yKZ--
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