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Date:      Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:09:19 -0700
From:      Bill Swingle <unfurl@dub.net>
To:        Michael Sierchio <kudzu@tenebras.com>
Cc:        security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: hardware crypto and SSL?
Message-ID:  <20031022140919.GA61094@dub.net>
In-Reply-To: <3F968E85.1030902@tenebras.com>
References:  <20031022032740.GA2605@dub.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20031021233604.0807f8a0@209.112.4.2> <3F9676FB.9020107@centtech.com> <3F968E85.1030902@tenebras.com>

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On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 07:04:53AM -0700, Michael Sierchio wrote:
> Eric Anderson wrote:
>=20
> >The new VIA Eden-N processors have built in high-speed AES encryption=20
>=20
> Forgive me, but that's really not important -- for SSL the bulk
> encryption algorithm is usually RC4 (oops, ARCFOUR ;-), which
> is efficient in software .  It's the handshake and public key
> operations that really benefit from the use of HW crypto.
>=20
> In which case the currently-supported cards (either by the
> OpenBSD /dev/crypto scheme ported by Sam Leffler, or those
> directly supported in the OpenSSL engine) all work fine.
>=20
> IOW the current Soekris boards help quite a bit, and they
> also help because they have a HW RBG which actually stirs
> the entropy pool for /dev/random -- very helpful for not
> running out of random bits on machines that have no
> keyboard or mouse.

When you say that they help quite a bit, do you mean for http+SSL or
some other application?

What I'm getting at is this: can anyone actually confirm that using
hardware crypto can increase http+SSL speeds? I've yet to find any
mention of it on the web.

(Basicly the problem I'm trying to solve is for a web-based app that we
recently discovered is tons faster without SSL but SSL is a requirement)

-Bill

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