Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:58:18 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net> To: Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org> Cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netgraph ng_pppoe.c Message-ID: <20060126202334.W24703@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> In-Reply-To: <20060126195806.GC83922@FreeBSD.org> References: <200601261306.k0QD6o4P070834@repoman.freebsd.org> <43D927B4.9040602@elischer.org> <20060126195806.GC83922@FreeBSD.org>
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: Hi, some brain-dump... > The other change I'm planning to do is the following - if the > original PADI had empty Service-Name, and we are servicing a > specific Service-Name, then return remove empty one from PADO, > returning only our specific Service-Name. Why would you want that? I haven't re-read the RFC but I think it said that PADOs have to include the Service-Name the client requested first, optionally followed by other Services-Names the AC may want to announce. Only in PADS you will then reply with only the one Name you accepted. I can see the problem with your change and the above coming: What would happen if you a) accepted the 'any service' request b) replied with 'any service' and 'service-name1, ...' c) the client now requests 'any service' d) you don't want to serve 'any service' Well you should have been silent from a) to b) *ups* Ok, so the only solution to this problem is what should also be in that RFC - it's a ploicy decicion of the AC -- of what to accept as Service-Name in a PADI. We had a clear policy up to now name it closed system. With your change we will have an open system (everyone will see the Service-Names we may serve if requested). The first thing might be a sysctl to toggle old and new behavior but actually one may also want to decide on a peer by peer base depending on a lookup perhaps based on mac address and/or Service-Name requested or even simpler on a per ("Ethernet") port base and fall back to a default poilcy if there is nothing (no hook) to do such a lookup. [ I am () ethernet because it's not always a physical ethernet port at the other end at the AC ] The other question is what to do with clients requesting Service-Names we don't know of but we know that we should serve the client? I think this is a common scenario here in DE that some clients set a Service-Name to "foo" and the ACs silently ignore and just serves it (server all Service-Names policy)[1]. It's also a policy decision that people might need ... [1] There are people speculating what will happen if they need to make use of service-names ... ;) Fun with nnK users ... -- Bjoern A. Zeeb bzeeb at Zabbadoz dot NeT
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