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Date:      Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:53:28 -0800
From:      "John M. Purser" <jpurser@wilcofarmers.com>
To:        "'Sue Blake'" <sue@welearn.com.au>
Cc:        "FreeBSD Newbies (E-mail)" <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Let's Try that Again! :-)
Message-ID:  <01BD5806.323ABC00.jpurser@wilcofarmers.com>

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On Wednesday, March 25, 1998 3:40 PM, Sue Blake [SMTP:sue@welearn.com.au] 
wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 02:15:24PM -0800, John M. Purser wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 25, 1998 1:26 PM, Sue Blake
> > [SMTP:sue@welearn.com.au]
> > wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 25, 1998 at 01:11:14PM -0800, John M. Purser wrote:
> > > > To the Community:
> > > >
> > > > Okay Sue, I've gone to http://www.lemis.com/email.htmlread and
> > > > RTFM.
> > > >  I THINK I've reconfigured MSOutlook to behave.  Care to grade me?
> > >
> > > Hey, that's no fair test! You'll have to quote and reply to this
> > > before
> > > I
> > > can find something decent to pick on.
> >
> > Not much I can do about long and short lines.  It's a formatting
> > function
> > from when I sent the first one.  As the first letter was formatted to 
X
> >
> > spaces when I forward the forward I got from you the inserted "> "
> > extend
> > the line length.  Instead of removing the hard returns at the end of
> > the
> > line new ones are added at X spaces or thereabouts.  I don't see a way
> >
> > out, any solutions out there?
>
> Your email software (or its editor) is supposed to recognise what is a
> quoted paragraph and reformat it accordingly when the line length gets
> too
> long. Watch what mine does:
>
> > > Hey, that's no fair test! You'll have to quote and reply to this
> > > before
> > > I
> > > can find something decent to pick on.
>
> > > Hey, that's no fair test! You'll have to quote and reply to this
> > > before
> > > I can find something decent to pick on.
>
> It's not directly your fault. The software seems to be letting you down.
> The result is the same: you look like you can't do it, and it gets
> progressively harder to read as it's requoted.
>
>
> > > You won't offend anyone here, but others will do their utmost to
> > > offend
> > > you
> > Trust me, sooner or later I offend someone everywhere! ;-)  Has anyone
> >
> > else noticed that the world has been in a bad mood for the last 20
> > years
> > or so?
>
> It has indeed. Everything's getting busier and tolerance is a luxury.
>
> Do you see this mess before it goes out? Can you fix it then?
> Normally I'd reformat before replying if it's not too messed up to be
> fixed,
> but we're experimenting here. I hope you don't mind.
>
> > > if you try those mickeysoft tricks in another mailing list. Besides,
> > > if
> > > other newbies start copying I'll soon be outnumbered, and next thing
> > > everyone will be typing secrets to the right of the 80 character
> > > limit
> > of
> > > my
> > > text screen.
> > If we had any secrets we wouldn't be Newbies!
> > >
> > John Purser
>
> OK, the problem's pretty clear in that last section. Some of my words
> immediately followed by your response without a break, then your
> signature.
> The only cues we have are the number of quote marks and the shape of the
> text on the screen. In this case, both are wrong and misleading. Just
> for
> fun, quote this back and we'll see if it gets worse.
>
> Meanwhile we have to come up with a solution.
> Is the software really so braindead that it cannot be beaten into
> submission? Is anyone else out there using the same software? Help!
>
> If you're stuck in windoze for some reason I recommend Pegasus Mail as
> one
> which can reliably produce email that makes you look good (but it's also
> powerful enough to be misused). The best solution of course is to use a
> wonderful operating system called FreeBSD which has plenty of good well
> behaved software :-)
>
> Oh, and your grade so far? Ten out of ten for attending to the problem.
> Just remind me not to let you choose my software :-)
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>         -*Sue*-
>
> find / -name "*.conf" |more

Okay folks, this will get messy!

I hear that the Univ. of Washington has ported Pine to Dos.  I might get a 
copy but I'd really rather wait until I get FreeBSD to the point I can do 
something useful.  Right now I can't connect to the Internet (still 
reading) or even mount my CDROM (device not configured - You loaded from 
it, how the hell can it not be configured!!!!)

Are you telling me that when you reply to a letter you editor removes the 
">" and reformats each line?  That would be very nice indeed.

John Purser






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