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Date:      Sat, 21 Nov 1998 13:40:34 -0500
From:      Malartre <malartre@aei.ca>
To:        Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
Cc:        small@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Minimal Install vs User Install on na 486
Message-ID:  <36570922.56E2387E@aei.ca>
References:  <XFMail.981121082547.asmodai@wxs.nl>

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Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
> 
> On 21-Nov-98 Malartre wrote:
> > Hi all, I finaly got that school project!
> 
> Weeeeeeeeeeeeee! Way to go ;)
> 
> > http://www.lowrent.org/freebsd/malartre/lada.html
> > It's in french but you can read that I called it "The Lada Porject" :-)
> > I have requested a 486, 400 mo of space and 32 meg of ram.
> 
> Lada Project? Ye referring to the cars?
> 
> > I don't know how much space/ram the school will give me for now. I will
> > set it has a server. It will do various function: e-mail, http, ftp,
> > telnet(eventually ssh, when I will take the time to learn it). It won't
> > have a screen/keyboard after the first install.
> 
> Hmmm... OK, could be done...
> 
> > 1) How big is the minimal install? I did go through /stand/sysinstall on
> > this system and in the FAQ/Handbook, but I didn't find info on how big
> > it was.
> 
> View this, my / is 256 MB and its capacity is 9% ;)
> /usr is near 2 GB due to cvsup and packages and is at 40 %
> 
> So I guess ye can go a long way with 400 MB. Problem being only when ye will
> start to proxy the thing...
> 
> > 2) How big is the User Install
> 
> 40 MB? I'm taking a wild guess here.
> 
> > 3) Would the minimal install do all the job I want?
> 
> Well, the sources and packages are the biggest problem regarding space. So I
> would say that binaries only would suffice to do all ye need to do.
> 
> > 4) What's not in the minimal install?
> 
> Sources, X...
> 
> > 5) Would PicoBSD be faster? I can mount a swap partition.
> 
> picoBSD differs only from FreeBSD in that it's kernel and binaries are
> crunched. And in some of the set-up (for now at least).
> 
> > Also, they have a lot of 486 who are in a closed room and who do
> > nothing. I'm sure that's waiting for another project :-)
> 
> OMG, he's on a rampage ;)
> 
> > Maybe a distributed system?
> 
> Could be, but with what gain? I would go for a proxy/firewall first ;)
> 
> ---
> Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai
> asmodai(at)wxs.nl                   |  Cum angelis et pueris,
> Junior Network/Security Specialist  |  fideles inveniamur
> *BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve... <http://www.freebsd.org>;
Yup, the Lada car. It will be cheap like the reputation of that car ;-)
Ok, so if I use the "minimal" install, I guess I won't have the source
so I simply cvsup it if I wan't to makeworld? I don't really want to
makeworld on a 486, but if I need to upgrade :-)
Thank You
-- 
[Malartre][malartre@aei.ca][http://www.lowrent.org/freebsd/malartre/]

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