Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:13:11 -0700 From: Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> To: Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org> Cc: alan bryan <alanbryan1234@yahoo.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Intel Macs? Message-ID: <43C5BB37.6040202@samsco.org> In-Reply-To: <43C5BA62.3010301@elischer.org> References: <20060111212605.79848.qmail@web34104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43C57A7A.3080802@elischer.org> <3e1162e60601111405x59e7e70dyf57c74b01e888e8a@mail.gmail.com> <43C5B4B2.9000707@elischer.org> <43C5B6F0.1050004@samsco.org> <43C5BA62.3010301@elischer.org>
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Julian Elischer wrote: > Scott Long wrote: > >> Julian Elischer wrote: >> >>> David Leimbach wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/11/06, *Julian Elischer* <julian@elischer.org >>>> <mailto:julian@elischer.org>> wrote: >>>> >>>> alan bryan wrote: >>>> >>>> >I read that the new Intel (x86) Macs use EFI rather >>>> >than the traditional PC Bios to boot up. I'm >>>> >interested in using one of these to multiboot OS X and >>>> >FreeBSD and am wondering if it is yet known to work or >>>> >not. Do any changes need to be made to FreeBSD or >>>> >should it work out of the box? Thanks for any insight >>>> >and I know that it may be impossible to fully answer >>>> >until people get their hands on the hardware but I >>>> >just wanted to start thinking about the possibilities. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> well if they can boot Darwin I'm sure they can be hacked to boot >>>> FreeBSD. >>>> It would probabty require a different bootloader binary. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't see what booting Darwin has to do with booting FreeBSD. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> If they were bastards they could refuse to load anything that wasn't >>> in some format or didn't >>> decrypt with some public key. I doubt they wouod do that but since >>> they control the >>> horizontal and the vertical they COULD do it. >>> >>> It is possible that the boot loader sequence may require a stage that >>> is in some format >>> supported by the apple firmware, depending on how wired down they >>> have made it. >>> >> >> Geez, please take off the tinfoil hat. This has been an FAQ since about >> 3 seconds after the word 'Intel' escaped Jobs' lips in June. Apple has >> quite clearly stated that they will not do anything to lock down the >> hardware from other OS's, just that they won't go out of their way to >> support anything other than OSX. >> >> So, repeat after me: "APPLE IS NOT KILLING KITTENS AND CALLING YOUR >> MOTHER DIRTY NAMES". A gold star goes to the first person who boots >> FreeBSD on an Intel iMac. > > > What I thought I said: > > "They COULD have done XYZ bad things (see above) but in all probability > the worst thing we'd > have to do is have a boot loader component (possibly boot0) that > conforms to some file format, > and that should be relatively simple" > >> >> Scott > > You're spreading FUD, even if you're doing it in a polite way. Buy an iMac, download the EFI spec from www.intel.com, open up the existing FreeBSD EFI bootloader code, compare, compile, enjoy. Scotthome | help
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