Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:26:42 +0200 From: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be> To: Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>, Stuart Krivis <ipswitch@apk.net> Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: So what happens to FreeBSD now? Message-ID: <p05100358b760edb74c9a@[194.78.241.123]> In-Reply-To: <20010628151228.N9802@lpt.ens.fr> References: <200106260901.AA23134284@stmail.pace.edu> <20010626084126W.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <p0510031eb75e868cb1bd@[194.78.241.123]> <2425994267.20010627160101@163.net> <p05100337b75fdc404cc5@[194.78.241.123]> <20010628103439.C9802@lpt.ens.fr> <2515701.993712862@[192.168.1.60]> <20010628151228.N9802@lpt.ens.fr>
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At 3:12 PM +0200 6/28/01, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> the $1299 Apple comes with: I can configure a $1314 Dell system with:
> 12.1 inch TFT XGA display 14 inch TFT XGA
> 500 MHz G3 700 MHz PIII
> 64MB SDRAM 128 MB SDRAM
> 10GB UltraATA hard drive 10GB UltraATA hard drive
> CDROM drive CDROM drive
> 10/100BASE-T ethernet 10/100+56K internal modem
> 56K internal modem
You're not comparing models with like features, like sizes and
weights, like battery lifes, etc.... This comparison is totally
meaningless.
If you want to make a proper comparison, you've got to get as
close to exactly the same configuration as possible on both machines.
> Whichever way you calculate, I don't see a price difference
> of $1000, or anything else particularly compelling about the iBook.
See my other post on this subject, which does a more proper
comparison of like with like.
> I haven't used a PPC myself, but from what benchmarks I've seen, the
> difference isn't *that* great. Besides, the real bottlenecks in a
> system are elsewhere: RAM, disk I/O, etc. That's why I don't mind
> using a Celeron, especially on a laptop.
PowerPC is able to do a lot more work per Mhz than Intel or
Intel-compatible chips. Therefore comparing Mhz of one chip to Mhz
of another is a completely and totally wasted operation.
> Well, but the chip's the same -- I don't see why Apple would mind if
> IBM is aiming for more power.
No, read the other messages. The chip is *NOT* the same. IBM
has the Power4 multi-chip CPU architecture that they are most
interested in. For desktop machines, they're mostly taking old
versions of the G3 chip and ramping up their speed, which is not what
Apple needs.
For Motorola, they're mostly interested in the embedded market,
which needs ultra-low power drain, so they're not investing nearly
enough time, money, or effort into development of the G4 chips that
Apple *does* need, or the new G5 chips that Apple will soon need.
Therefore, Apple needs to be able to take their destiny into
their own hands, and create their own chip designs that are optimized
for the desktop and laptop markets, and then be able to farm out the
fabrication to appropriate companies.
--
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
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