Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:59:43 -0500 From: Alex Goncharov <alex-goncharov@comcast.net> To: Dan Allen <danallen46@airwired.net> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unhappy Xorg upgrade Message-ID: <E1LSP0B-0003Ds-H8@daland.home> In-Reply-To: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net> (message from Dan Allen on Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:39:10 -0700) References: <6B7ABE80-35AB-4C44-B5A4-200E10DCC3AC@airwired.net>
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,--- You/Dan (Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:39:10 -0700) ----*
| > While this enabled the mouse (without HAL), it did nothing good about:
| >
| > a. The bogus keyboard scans.
You are quoting me and I need to clarify...
| Everyone is talking about an xorg.conf
| The new X.org 7.4 upgrade hit me too: no keyboard & no mouse! Bummer.
| I found that if I simply added to /etc/rc.conf:
| hald_enable="YES"
| that things now work for me.
| Previously I never have had hald in my rc.conf.
| Hope this helps.
`--------------------------------------------------*
My worst case is not HAL-related: I had the same behavior with or
without HAL, and the behaviour was, e.g.:
* I press the keys "TAB q w" over an `xev' window and see the bogus
key scan codes -- nothing related to the pressed keys.
* In a moment the xev-monitoring xterm window shows a non-stopping
flow of events, even though I am not touching anything on the
computer.
* With some combination of a few key presses over the `xterm'
window, suddenly a long stream of `2's appears. Or `z'. Or
something else, unrelated to the keys I had pressed.
There has been nothing of this sort on my desktop, where I am typing
this message -- so, I think I know how to configure X :-).
On this desktop I am currently running this new X (installed it on
Sunday) -- first I ran it with HAL, then today I switched to the
HAL-less mode.
I did complain about the garbage in my windows -- and it got me, there
was so much of it: I switched to the HAL-less mode a few hours ago and
so far it seems I have less of it.
Another thing that I am certain about, is that in the HAL mode (I am
not yet sure about the behavior in my current HAL-less mode), there is
a dramatically higher mouse pointer captivity by some applications
(e.g. `opera') -- it sometimes takes (took?) about 10 seconds after
shifting a pointer into an xterm or Emacs to be able to produce any
keyboard input. I did notice these things with the old X, but on a
scale dramatically smaller.
,--- You/Dan (Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:11:13 -0700) ----*
| This 7.4 version of X.org is not ready for STABLE!
`--------------------------------------------------*
I hate to say this, but the new X (as exists in the current FreeBSD
ports) sucks and gets in the way of work big time.
-- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net --
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