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Date:      Sun, 6 Feb 2022 20:52:04 +0300
From:      Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com>
To:        Sean Bruno <sbruno@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: USB Disk Stalls on -current
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On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 8:15 PM Sean Bruno <sbruno@freebsd.org> wrote:

> I'm doing something "gross" with ZFS & Plex on a little Intel NUC that I
> have here at the house to provide me with a nice little NAS at home.
> I'm using 2x USB2 external disks as the mirror.
>
> I noted that the two USB2 disks I'm using in a mirror seem to "stall"
> from time to time and its not clear to me why.
>
> I'd like to poke further into the USB system but I'm not sure where I
> should start to see if there is something amiss with the hardware (e.g.
> the disks suck) or if FreeBSD is losing track of something during I/O
> leading to a stall/timeout.
>
> I'm not seeing data loss or anything, I just note from time to time
> during large file transfers that the clanking/grinding sound of the
> spinning rust on my desk completely stops, the encoding of the video
> files stops (so its waiting for a read to complete) and its gets much
> quieter in my office.  :-)
>
> sean
>
>

I encountered such a case in Fedora Linux with an external 2.0 USB disk .
When the external disk was connected to a 1.? USB port , the loading of
operating system
was terrifically slow or sometimes some parts normal .

You may check your USB ports versions to ensure that they are conforming to
each other .
Board USB port may be 2.0 , but connected chassis USB port may be 1.?  like
in my chassis .
When USB external disk is connected to the chassis  USB 2.0 port ,
everything has become normal .


Mehmet Erol Sanliturk

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 =
at 8:15 PM Sean Bruno &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sbruno@freebsd.org">sbruno@free=
bsd.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex">I&#39;m doing something &quot;gross&quot; with ZFS &amp; Plex on a l=
ittle Intel NUC that I <br>
have here at the house to provide me with a nice little NAS at home. <br>
I&#39;m using 2x USB2 external disks as the mirror.<br>
<br>
I noted that the two USB2 disks I&#39;m using in a mirror seem to &quot;sta=
ll&quot; <br>
from time to time and its not clear to me why.<br>
<br>
I&#39;d like to poke further into the USB system but I&#39;m not sure where=
 I <br>
should start to see if there is something amiss with the hardware (e.g. <br=
>
the disks suck) or if FreeBSD is losing track of something during I/O <br>
leading to a stall/timeout.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m not seeing data loss or anything, I just note from time to time <br=
>
during large file transfers that the clanking/grinding sound of the <br>
spinning rust on my desk completely stops, the encoding of the video <br>
files stops (so its waiting for a read to complete) and its gets much <br>
quieter in my office.=C2=A0 :-)<br>
<br>
sean<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">I encountered=
 such a case in Fedora Linux with an external 2.0 USB disk .</div><div styl=
e=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"=
>When the external disk was connected to a 1.? USB port , the loading of op=
erating system</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:l=
arge" class=3D"gmail_default">was terrifically slow or sometimes some parts=
 normal .</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"=
 class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-se=
rif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">You may check your USB ports v=
ersions to ensure that they are conforming to each other .</div><div style=
=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">=
Board USB port may be 2.0 , but connected chassis USB port may be 1.?=C2=A0=
 like in my chassis .<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;=
font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">When USB external disk is connecte=
d to the chassis=C2=A0 USB 2.0 port , <br></div><div style=3D"font-family:t=
ahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">everything has be=
come normal .<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma=
,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=
=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">=
Mehmet Erol Sanliturk<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;=
font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><br></div><div><br></div=
><div>=C2=A0</div></div></div>

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