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Date:      Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:33:35 +0300
From:      Panagiotis Astithas <past@ebs.gr>
To:        Herve Quiroz <herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr>
Cc:        Conrad Burger <conrad.burger@swistgroup.com>, freebsd-java@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Tomcat 5.5 --- tomcat55ctl --- increase max vm heap space ?
Message-ID:  <42E5E74F.3080700@ebs.gr>
In-Reply-To: <20050725212138.GA13849@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr>
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Herve Quiroz wrote:
> Hi Achilleus,
> 
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 05:31:48PM +0300, Achilleus Mantzios wrote:
> 
>>I have probably missed something, but
>>why can't tomcat be started as a shellscript
>>as jboss does?
> 
> 
> Well, actually jboss is launched using an executable which is also a C
> program...
> 
> But actually I tend to agree with you on the shell script front. There
> may have been some historical reason to the tomcatctl.c program but I
> believe the most clean approach is probably the one from PR 38018 [1].
> 
> I have been trying to get the commons-daemon stuff working but there are
> still issues (e.g. it takes forever to shutdown the service) to overcome
> and I don't see what jsvc does actually provide more than what
> catalina.sh + rcNG already do. I am starting to think that jsvc is good
> when your system don't provide features such as the ones that are
> provided by rcNG (PID file, run as user, start/stop...)
> 
> Please, all people motivated by this issue have a look at PR 33018 [1]
> and tell me if there is something wrong with a plain rcNG shell script.
> Whether there is indeed some mandatory feature that can only be provided by
> some C program or not, we need to know it so we can already close some
> PRs and find a solution, at last.
> 
> FYI, a ports CVS freeze is coming (6.0 release) in a few days now...
> 
> Herve

IMHO, the approach in PR 38018 is a reasonable and future-proof one. I 
agree with everything you say above. IIRC the only thing a C program 
buys us is the ability to bind directly on privileged ports (e.g. 80, 
443). I have had a hard time persuading other people that this is better 
than having the stock launcher script, though.

Cheers,

Panagiotis



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