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Date:      Thu, 10 May 2001 10:05:29 -0700 (PDT)
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
Subject:   Re: pgm to kill 4.3 via vm
Message-ID:  <XFMail.010510100529.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1010510123858.4086A-100000@fledge.watson.org>

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On 10-May-01 Robert Watson wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 9 May 2001, Garrett Wollman wrote:
> 
>> <<On Tue, 8 May 2001 23:31:51 -0400 (EDT), Robert Watson
>> <rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG> said:
>> 
>> > I followed everything here fine until you asserted that the debugger
>> > shouldn't need any locks.
>> 
>> When the debugger is running, everything else should have been
>> forcibly halted.
> 
> The process and signal-related structures may be inconsistent if the
> debugger disregards existing locks held over those structures.  It does
> not matter if code is currently still executing, it matters that
> preemption can occur.  The choices appear to be:
> 
> 1) Disregard locks and risk corruption

If I'm sending a kill -9 to a program, I could really care less about
clobbering the SIGABRT it is currently getting sent. :)  I think that a kernel
debugger is a case of where one allows much foot shooting to occur.

> 2) Fail if a lock is held

mtx_trylock() makes this relatively easy to implement in many cases.

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