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Date:      Mon, 8 Sep 2008 00:53:00 +0300
From:      Kostik Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
To:        Juergen Lock <nox@jelal.kn-bremen.de>
Cc:        freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, peter@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Linux applications core if running (k)qemu
Message-ID:  <20080907215300.GH2038@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>
In-Reply-To: <200809062215.m86MF6NS040797@saturn.kn-bremen.de>
References:  <alpine.BSF.1.10.0808291711580.5866@thor.farley.org> <20080830113448.GA2152@dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0809021552040.7934@thor.farley.org> <20080906104659.GA2113@dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru> <200809062215.m86MF6NS040797@saturn.kn-bremen.de>

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On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 12:15:06AM +0200, Juergen Lock wrote:
> In article <20080906152929.GB2038@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> you write:
> >-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-
> >
> >On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 02:46:59PM +0400, Chagin Dmitry wrote:
> >> On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 03:56:33PM -0500, Sean C. Farley wrote:
> >> > On Sat, 30 Aug 2008, Chagin Dmitry wrote:
> >> >=20
> >> > >On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 05:29:09PM -0500, Sean C. Farley wrote:
> >> > >>I am having trouble with kqemu.ko and linux.ko.  If I run qemu with
> >> > >>the following command, Linux applications (chroot, acroread, ls) w=
ill
> >> > >>start core dumping:
> >> > >>    qemu-system-x86_64 -m 512 \
> >> > >>    -drive file=3D/usr/QEMU/WinXP/c.img,if=3Dide,media=3Ddisk -boo=
t c \
> >> > >>    -std-vga -parallel none -serial none -monitor stdio \
> >> > >>    -net nic,model=3De1000 -net tap,ifname=3Dtap0,script=3Dno -loc=
altime
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Loading kqemu.ko does not cause the problem, but the cores start a
> >> > >>little after WinXP starts running.  Unloading kqemu.ko does not he=
lp;
> >> > >>the cores still happen but more randomly.  I even tried unloading =
all
> >> > >>linux modules and reloading them without luck.  It takes a reboot.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Packages:
> >> > >>qemu-devel-0.9.1s.20080620_1
> >> > >>kqemu-kmod-devel-1.4.0.p1
> >> > >>linux_base-f8-8_4
> >> > >>
> >> > >>sysctl:
> >> > >>compat.linux.osrelease: 2.6.16
> >> > >>
> >> > >>dmesg:
> >> > >>kqemu version 0x00010400
> >> > >>kqemu: KQEMU installed, max_locked_mem=3D1792492kB.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>System is 7-STABLE as of r181963 with or without the patch to fix =
RT
> >> > >>signals from Chagin.
> >> > >
> >> > >Interestingly... Sean, can you provide ktrace/kdump log of coring
> >> > >apps?  thnx!
> >> >=20
> >> > Here they are (good and bad):
> >> > http://www.farley.org/freebsd/tmp/linuxulator_vs_kqemu/
> >> >=20
> >> > The good trace is after the bad trace.  I just kept running ktrace
> >> > /compat/linux/bin/date over and over until I got a good trace.  Befo=
re
> >> > loading kqemu and running qemu, there were no core dumps.  Also, I
> >> > compared two bad traces and they were basically the same except for =
PID
> >> > and a couple of addresses (still very close in value).
> >> >=20
> >>=20
> >> Most likely it is a tls problem again, some days ago kib@ has made MFC
> >> r182684, probably it will help..
> >
> >I doubt it. This seems to be an ingenious kqemu bug. As far as I remembe=
r,
> >it tries to use GDT/LDT. This probably has unwanted interaction with
> >PCB_GS32BIT.
>=20
> Wow.  That corner of the code had escaped me so far, and yes this (in
> amd64/linux32) looks like it won't like kqemu's seperating of the gdts
> on SMP indeed.  (it stores a pointer to &gdt[GUGS32_SEL] in pcb_gs32p and
> lets linux processes manipulate the segment pointed to by it, and when
> kqemu is (or was) running this won't be used by all cpus, see older threa=
ds
> like
> 	http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-emulation/2008-May/004902.html
> for the reasons.)
>=20
>  What I wonder tho is, won't this also cause problems without kqemu when
> there are linux processes running on multiple cpus that manipulate this
> segment because the gdt is then shared between the cpus?  (like, linux
> process on cpu 0 changes the segment, then linux process on cpu 1 comes
> along and changes it again and then the linux process on cpu 0 will pick
> it up from cpu 1?)  At least I must have somehow assumed the shared gdt
> wouldn't be changed later because of reasons like this...

Very nice catch! Me and Peter Wemm discussed the right approach,
that consists of actually providing per-cpu GDT. Patch is at
http://people.freebsd.org/~kib/misc/amd64_gdt.1.patch

Please, test and give a feedback. Even reports about thinks working
the same as before the patch are important.
>=20
>  Anyway, fixing this will require changes to the kernel, I don't see how
> kqemu could fix it by itself alone. :(

See above. If you need some further kernel changes for kqemu, this is
the best time to discuss them.

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