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Date:      Mon, 10 Jul 2000 22:29:14 -0700
From:      Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@cup.hp.com>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, Vivek Khera <khera@kciLink.com>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make  yerkernels
Message-ID:  <396AB0AA.4A4436B8@cup.hp.com>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007102203280.62439-100000@freefall.freebsd.org>

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Kris Kennaway wrote:
> 
> > I think the buildkernel and installkernel have been "promoted" to a
> > function they are not designed for. I don't think these targets are fit
> > to be "the only supported" targets and should not be advocated nor
> > evaluated as such.
> 
> Perhaps you and Greg would like to take over the role of answering all
> support questions of the form "my kernel doesn't build after I updated my
> sources"? Didn't think so.

You're not being fair and you know it...

I understand why these targets are choosen as the supported way to build
a kernel. The problem is that it is starting to get a live of its own. I
think we'd be better of if we evaluate what we need for our userbase to
conveniently build kernels (in a way that helps us support our userbase)
and see if we can improve the buildkernel/installkernel targets for that
or otherwise create other means.

Currently you need to have done a buildworld before you can do a
buildkernel. I think this should not be the case for a generic
(supported) procedure. Secondly, I don't think our supported procedure
should necessarily be designed to support kernel-developers; they do it
their own way anyway.

Feel free to add any suggestions you have...

-- 
Marcel Moolenaar
  mail: marcel@cup.hp.com / marcel@FreeBSD.org
  tel:  (408) 447-4222


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