Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:41:37 -0600 (CST) From: Brennan Stehling <brennan@offwhite.net> To: Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> Cc: Tony Landells <ahl@austclear.com.au>, Bruce Lacey <BBLacey@Home.com>, "[gill]" <gill@topsecret.net>, Isak Lyberth <ily@serv01.vejlehs.dk>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: BSD on macs Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0102112334010.73165-100000@home.offwhite.net> In-Reply-To: <000801c094b4$c78cee20$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
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I had Darwin installed with just the command-line interface and looked
around a bit. I never tried getting X up although I do have the
binaries. It is a simple matter of having only one Mac to play on and I
typically use my mac to do everything, so a base Darwin system does not
help much.
I also had the MacOS X beta on an iMac and it was horrible. The GUI was
so intense I could see it was slowing down the interface. On a nice G4
that may not be noticable, but I have heard they have sped up the GUI a
great deal. There is no reason a GUI for the base OS should take up so
much CPU time. It is bad enough running a web browser and an mp3 player,
nevermind trying to run a Gnutella client or Adobe/Macromedia software at
the same time.
But I suppose a sluggish OS will encourage mac users to purchase a faster
more expensive Mac computer. The bean counters at Apple probably see that
as a plus for them. I see it as another reason I will hope the media
capabilities of FreeBSD and Linux both increase. I want to be able to
choose which hardware to be my ideal computer, not what Steve Jobs chooses
to throw together. I wonder if Adobe and Macromedia will ever see FreeBSD
and Linux as a worthwhile platform for them.
Brennan Stehling - software developer and system administrator
my projects:
home.offwhite.net (free personal hosting)
www.greasydaemon.com (bsd search)
On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> Thanks! I don't have a PPC so I haven't been running the betas,
> although once it ships I'll be looking around for a used one
> in a minimal configuration, and if I can get one for a song I
> want to boot it up.
>
> Now, is it possible to make the system boot into character
> mode so as to turn off the GUI completely?
>
> Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com
> Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
> Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Tony Landells
> > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 8:57 PM
> > To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> > Cc: Bruce Lacey; [gill]; Isak Lyberth; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject: Re: BSD on macs
> >
> >
> > Unless something has changed since the Public Beta, this isn't true.
> >
> > You can choose to enable telnet (though they suggest you have it
> > disabled if you don't know you want it), and there is a terminal
> > tool that gives you a shell.
> >
> > > Although I understand that /bin/sh isn't part of the
> > > distribution - the only way to get at the system is
> > > through the gooey.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com
> > > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
> > > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bruce Lacey
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 11:01 AM
> > > > To: [gill]; Isak Lyberth
> > > > Cc: 'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'
> > > > Subject: Re: BSD on macs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Apple's MacOS X, to be released March 24, includes the FreeBSD 3.2
> > > > personality running on the Mach 3.0 kernel.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > on 2/6/01 12:17 PM, [gill] at gill@topsecret.net wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Look at NetBSD
> > > > > http://www.netbsd.org
> > > > >
> > > > > --gill
> > > >
> > > >
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