Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 23:33:01 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin <jamie@kode5.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: text editor Message-ID: <20120829223301.GH29957@kontrol.kode5.net> In-Reply-To: <0aea01cd8576$be4a54f0$3adefed0$@freebsd.org> References: <D3E0D46DA47D9749A75DA627A9E47CE94B38E69A@CUP-EXMB01.chapman.edu> <0ac101cd856b$ef1220f0$cd3662d0$@freebsd.org> <D3E0D46DA47D9749A75DA627A9E47CE94B38E6B6@CUP-EXMB01.chapman.edu> <0aea01cd8576$be4a54f0$3adefed0$@freebsd.org>
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[ dteske@freebsd.org wrote on Tue 28.Aug'12 at 16:42:06 -0700 ] > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robin, Michael [mailto:robin@chapman.edu] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:42 PM > > To: 'dteske@freebsd.org'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: RE: text editor > > > > What is VIM? > > A _much_ improved version of "vi" (vi is the ubiquitous UNIX text editor written > by Bill Joy in 1976), vim itself being born in 1991 by a man named Bram > Moolenaar. > > > > Where could it be downloaded? > > As Polytropon mentioned, FreeBSD has a built-in software acquisition system. > > Executing: > > pkg_add -r vim > > will install the VIM text editor (immediately after-which you can type "rehash" > -- if using [t]csh -- and then "vim FILE" to start editing files). > > However, I recognize the need to sometimes "know where your food comes from," so > below are some links. > > NOTE: You need to know what version of FreeBSD you're using... > > For recent versions of FreeBSD: > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ > > For older versions of FreeBSD: > ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/ > > Then under there, you'll have to select "i386" for 32-bit builds, or "amd64" for > 64-bit builds (etc.). > > Then under there, you'll have to select your appropriate version (e.g., > "8.1-RELEASE"). > > Then under there, you'll navigate to "packages" then either "All" or a specific > sub-category. > > In there, you'll find "vim-VERSION" (ending in either ".tgz", ".tbz", or ".txz", > depending on your version of FreeBSD; mind you the suffix matters not to your > ability to install the software). > > You'll also find "gvim-VERSION" there too. > > Please keep in-mind that this is _NOT_ the recommended way of electively > installing software on FreeBSD. I'm merely explaining this so that you know > where software for FreeBSD comes from (loosely; I'm leaving out a lot and > choosing to focus on the consumer-side of things for the benefit of clarity). > > > > > What is CLI? > > Before Windows and Apple, computers were told what to do without a mouse. This > interface was called "the command line." It has a very rich history and is still > common-place in server environments. > > > > I am looking for GUI/command prompt text editor for Windows 7/8. > > I'd recommend getting to know something called "Cygwin". It will allow you to > run software such as VIM on Windows. > > The main website for Cygwin is: > http://cygwin.com/ > > You can even run gVIM (the graphical version of VIM designed to run in the GUI) > on Windows. > > Surely, you can run special versions of VIM on Windows _without_ Cygwin (link > below), but I recommend Cygwin if you're going to program on UNIX at all > (conflating your Windows environment with a UNIX-compatible environment is a > convenience that many find helpful in making work more efficient). > > [g]VIM for MS-DOS and/or MS-Windows: > http://www.vim.org/download.php#pc > > NOTE: There are downloads for self-installing executables for added convenience. > > > > The notepad plus program lacks start/end block setting option even though it > > have a lot of hot keys. My top priority is setting start/end block option > which was > > available for old DOS-based text editor, but I have not seen any window-based > > text editor for this option. 16-bit DOS text editor program will not run on > 64-bit > > operating system. > > Have you tried compatibility mode? Win7 has a compatibility mode that it can run > executables in. I think it has a compat mode that will run 16-bit DOS programs, > but I must admit that I've not tried. > -- > Devin > > > > Please advise. > > Thank you. > > > > Michael > > Programmer Analyst > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Devin Teske [mailto:devin.teske@fisglobal.com] On Behalf Of > > dteske@freebsd.org > > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:25 PM > > To: Robin, Michael; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: RE: text editor > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > > > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Robin, Michael > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:10 PM > > > To: 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org' > > > Subject: text editor > > > > > > Which text editor program will run 64-bit operating system > > > > On FreeBSD? > > In the GUI? or on the CLI? > > > > > > > with following > > > features: > > > * Support 100 percent of hot keys > > > > How many is that? If a program has programmable hot keys, would that suffice? > > > > > > > * Hot keys available for setting start/end block to be copied, moved > > > or > > deleted > > > without requiring any mouse lock. > > > It is not possible to use mouse lock or to hold shift key combined > > > with > > navigating > > > key at the same time without accidently dese4lcing. > > > > A challenge, no-doubt. > > > > > > > * Support special ASCII characters > > > > > > > Less of a challenge. Most editors are good about special ASCII characters (the > > ones that don't are in the minority, imho). > > > > ... > > > > I'd honestly recommend vim (CLI) or gvim (GUI). > > > > NOTE: Assuming FreeBSD here. > > -- > > Devin > > > > _____________ > > The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. > If > > you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all > copies; > > (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) > notify > > the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message > > addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other > than > > the intended recipient. Thank you. I simply just use the vi version installed in base. In fact, over the years i've come to prefer it to vim and similar clones of vi. It's a hardcore UNIX text editor and for me provides everything I need. On Windows systems, Microsoft has a subsystem available called Interix. It is preferrable to projects like Cygwin because of the way it interacts with the Windows Kernel. I've used it on XP and Windows 7. There is a site that provides downloads for software and a great deal of support but I forget now what it's called. Anyway, searching Google for Interix will bring up a load of stuff about it. Jamie.
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