Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:44:53 -0400 From: "Jason" <kib@poboxes.com> To: "Jan B. Koum " <jkb@best.com>, "Atipa" <freebsd@atipa.com> Cc: <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Why we should support Microsoft... Message-ID: <018d01bd8427$ccf45ec0$023aa8c0@kib.kib.net>
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But its not a monopoly! I mean if it were a monopoly then there would be no FreeBSD, OS/2, SCO, Linux, ......I can go on and on like this if you like :) And if your talking about Browsers then what about Netscape? are they not a browser maker along with so many others? I am a Win98 beta tester and have NEVER seen where Win98/IE4 has EVER interfered with loading and running of Netscape. And that thing about the windows startup having IE in it is garbage! Anyone who wants to can have that replaced along with any other "offending" text/pics. This whole DOJ thing is pointless and will not get anywhere. I am not worried about the Govt. coming in and regulating Windows or any other company for the time being. But if it does happen to MS it will happen to others. Jason -----Original Message----- From: Jan B. Koum <jkb@best.com> To: Atipa <freebsd@atipa.com> Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Date: Monday, May 18, 1998 5:39 PM Subject: Re: Why we should support Microsoft... > > Stop smoking crack. This is not about Bill Gates having too much >money. This is about monopoly. Go read some history with the following >keywords: Standard Oil, AT&T. > Monopoly is bad for economy. Monopoly does not help the economy. >Monopoly should be stopped. > >-- Yan > >Jan Koum jkb@best.com | "Turn up the lights; I don't want >www.FreeBSD.org -- The Power to Serve | to go home in the dark." > >On Mon, 18 May 1998, Atipa wrote: > >> >> >><Puts on flame-retardant asbestos suit> >> >>I know I am going out on a limbe here, but I do not think the Justice >>Department should make any decisions on the software industry, and I think >>Microsoft should be allowed to ship whatever the hell it wants. >> >>We are told that this is a free, capitalistic country, but now they want >>to say it is just sort-of capitalistic? That you can make all the money >>you want, until you make too much? What kind of crap is that? >> >>I belive in economic Darwinism; that is to say, good products flourish and >>poor products wilt away. The consumer ultimately decides what sells and >>what doesn't, and not the providers. If Win98 stinks, I hope it dies and >>forces MS to make better products. But who am I to say what they should or >>should not try to do? >> >>Adding insult to this whole situation are the demands of the US >>Government. Now these are plain silly, and I applaud Bill Gates for >>telling them where to go with their suggesions: >> >> * That Microsoft disable their browser, and _all_available_means >> of accessing it. This is _almost_ reasonable, but I can >> understand the common vision of PC's as extensions to the >> Internet. To make a browser part of an OS seems like a really >> cool idea to me. Now I do agree 100% that other browsers should >> be able to operate in the new environment (eg, no MS booby traps >> or proprietary mumbo jumbo to prevent competition) >> >> * If MS does include a browser, they must also provide all >> competing products as well. Can you say horse<dung>? That is >> entirely ludicrous. To paraphrase Bill Gates, "It is like having >> to include 2 cans of Pepsi in every Coke six pack." Amen. >> As I said, take off the restrictions and let the best product >> win. As consumers, _WE_ are the ones getting hosed in this >> ordeal, not Microsoft. >> >> * MS must modify their "Window Manager" so that OEMs and >> competitors can customize their visual. How would all the >> developers of FreeBSD feel if I took a FreeBSD release, changed >> the GUI a bit, and called it AtipaOS? You would feel smited. >> Also, the continuity of the UI is the only thing that makes >> supporting this crap OS possible. If everyone had their own >> interface, providers would have a bear of a time giving >> accurate, detailed instructions. >> >>We must take a stand, and tell the Justice Deptartment to bugger off. They >>do not understand the software industry, they are setting a horrible >>precendent, and depriving the American people of free choice. >> >>They are ruining a good, competitive environment by degrading the efforts >>of the front runner, instead of promoting the laggers. We are all losing >>out. >> >>The issue to me is not whether or not Win98 is good or bad, the issue is >>freedom. I support Bill Gates in this issue, and hope you will as well. >>Hopefully, this product will fail all on its own, and open the doors to >>good programmers all over the world, without US ecomonic intervention. >> >>I hope you all can see through this junk. Liberty must be preserved. Let >>the best products win, and let MS die on its own two feet. >> >>Kevin >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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