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Date:      Tue, 4 Apr 2000 00:11:30 +0000
From:      David Murphy <drjolt@redbrick.dcu.ie>
To:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: make world failed
Message-ID:  <20000404001130.A83840@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0004031348070.2849-100000@dt051n0b.san.rr.com>; from Doug@gorean.org on Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 01:57:52PM -0700
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10004031529120.36725-100000@home.offwhite.net> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0004031348070.2849-100000@dt051n0b.san.rr.com>

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Quoting <Pine.BSF.4.21.0004031348070.2849-100000@dt051n0b.san.rr.com>
by Doug Barton <Doug@gorean.org>:

> 	As I said, the documentation project can always use fresh
> blood. I suggest you subscribe to doc@freebsd.org so you can get an
> idea of what's happening currently. Or, you can just use this whole
> pointless exercise to promote your web site. Either is fine with me,
> as long as you spend more time making constructive contributions
> instead of sending pointless e-mails to the list.

I've been on the receiving end of a previous iteration of this
flamewar, and I don't personally see that your position is any more
constructive.

At the end of the day, if someone wants to write documentation, they
will. If they don't, they won't. In your model, the person who needs
documentation is assigned the task of writing documentation.

There seem to be two widely held opinions on this list, and I assume,
perhaps incorrectly, that they are held by the majority of FreeBSD
developers:

	1) The responsibility for locating available documentation
rests with the user.

	2) If the user finds the available documentation insufficient,
the responsibility for creating sufficient documentation rests with
the user.

It seems to me that the difference between users and developers is
that developers generally find the above opinions reasonable, users
generally do not.

There are, broadly speaking, two classes of users of any software
system: those who use the system, find problems with the system, and
fix those problems; and those who use the system, find problems with
the system, and report those problems. I think of the former group of
people as "developers", and I call the latter group of people "users".

The bottom line seems to be that, while developers are greatly
desired, users are tolerated, to the extent that they don't get in the
way of development.

This makes FreeBSD an excellent choice of system for developers. It
makes it a poor choice of system for users.

This, in and of itself, is no problem if you are interested in
creating and using a system by developers, for developers. Good for
you, and much success.

Just don't promote it to users.

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