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Date:      Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:07:24 -0800
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Clement Laforet <clement@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/net/delegate Makefile distinfo pkg-message pkg-plist
Message-ID:  <20040221200724.GB51235@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <20040221210244.23d7fa99.clement@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <200402211513.i1LFDQRA012919@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040221193617.GB50771@xor.obsecurity.org> <20040221210244.23d7fa99.clement@FreeBSD.org>

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On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 09:02:44PM +0100, Clement Laforet wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:36:17 -0800
> Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> wrote:
>=20
> > When I audited this software and added the warning, I concluded that
> > delegate was fundamentally insecure from the ground up and could not
> > be fixed just by patching a few things.  How has this changed, and who
> > has audited the new software to verify it?
>=20
> Which version did you audit ? changes in 8.x fixed most of lacks of
> security in protocol implementations. Since advisories are 4 years old
> (and currently, except misconfiguration, there are few risks), I thought
> it was reasonnable to remove warnings.
> If you still consider that this software is insecure by concept, I can
> re-add them, but I wonder why you don't add the same to sendmail, bind
> or whatever port which got several advisories due to bad conception.

Because those were not written by someone with no concept of secure
coding.  That's why I said "insecure from the ground up"; there were
literally hundreds of ways to exploit this software.  A few of those
special cases probably made it into advisories and were fixed, but
claiming that the entire set of applications has been fixed requires
extraordinary proof.

Kris

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