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Date:      Sun, 21 Jan 2018 21:50:50 +0100
From:      Willem Jan Withagen <wjw@digiware.nl>
To:        Don Lewis <truckman@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Pete French <petefrench@ingresso.co.uk>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?
Message-ID:  <86eba4e4-f9a7-7177-a6bf-12700b1defa0@digiware.nl>
In-Reply-To: <tkrat.4540dd6d35bd55a1@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <8e842dec-ade7-37d1-6bd8-856ea1a827ca@sentex.net> <8dcf6cc8fad788ac8168a4a9f392b02e@foolishgames.com> <23c1d162-dcd8-c422-3114-d70b65b6c271@sentex.net> <e2d004c63e414022ce48b5b50959c302@foolishgames.com> <00875e4d-740f-63f1-496c-6cda82b1a403@ingresso.co.uk> <tkrat.943da3fc20539e05@FreeBSD.org> <52744797-0606-44e7-72dd-242a6b56066a@digiware.nl> <tkrat.4540dd6d35bd55a1@FreeBSD.org>

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On 21/01/2018 21:24, Don Lewis wrote:
> On 21 Jan, Willem Jan Withagen wrote:
>> On 19/01/2018 23:29, Don Lewis wrote:
>>> On 19 Jan, Pete French wrote:
>>>> Out of interest, is there anyone out there running Ryzen who *hasnt*
>>>> seen lockups ? I'd be curious if there a lot of lurkers thinking "mine
>>>> works fine"
>>>
>>> No hangs or silent reboots here with either my original CPU or warranty
>>> replacement once the shared page fix was in place.
>>
>> Perhaps a too weird reference:
>>
>> I have supplied a customer with a Ryzen5 and a 350MB motherboard.
>> But he runs Windows 10, but I haven't heard him complain about anything
>> like this.
>> But I'll ask him specific.
> 
> Only the BSDs were affected by the shared page issue.  I think Linux
> already had a guard page.  I don't think Windows was affected by the
> idle C-state issue.  I suspect it is caused by software not doing the
> right thing during C-state transitions, but the publicly available
> documentation from AMD is pretty lacking.  The random segfault issue is
> primarily triggered by heavy parallel software build loads and how many
> Windows users do that?

This is an adobe workstation where several users remote login and do 
work. So I would assume that the system is seriously (ab)used.

Adn as expected I'm know aware of any of the detailed things that 
Windows does while powering into lesser active states.

--WjW





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