Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 15:36:35 +0000 From: "Steven Harms (High-Security Mail)" <sgharms@stevengharms.com> To: "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Inaccuracies in 15.0-CURRENT documentation versus wayland+sway in practice Message-ID: <QoqaKSsAhtLxTg3jluy5rRXdlBa5zAuQGud0iToGZe8EWTq9lt2L7XF6fx_upmxfwrElqMUv1tjsPqQ_EgZSwz5WxgIbEAVsMYdkOjyWbYE=@stevengharms.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] Folks, The docs say: All compositors using Wayland will need a runtime directory defined in the environment. Since FreeBSD 14.1, this is created and defined automatically. For previous versions, this is achieved with the following command in the bourne shell: % export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/var/run/user/`id -u` OK, so then I execute sway(1) and I get the lovely blue background. When I do a ls /var/run there's no user directory there. There is an xdg directory that contains the id -c of the user that ran sway. Now, I grant that I'm running 15.0-CURRENT against documentation that describes a situation post 14.1 -- but I would assume the intention is for that change to persist through 15? Ultimately: Is 15.0-CURRENT not matching standards established in 14.1 (in which there's a bug for 15.0-CURRENT), or is the documentation incorrect and I should open a docs bug? 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[-- Attachment #2 --] <div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Folks,</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">The docs say:</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><div style="font-size: 16px; text-decoration: none; font-family: "inter var", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "avenir next", avenir, "segoe ui", "helvetica neue", helvetica, Cantarell, Ubuntu, roboto, noto, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"><p><span></span></p></div><span style="text-decoration: none; display: inline !important; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">All compositors using Wayland will need a runtime directory defined in the environment. Since FreeBSD 14.1, this is created and defined automatically. For previous versions, this is achieved with the following command in the bourne shell:</span><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span style="text-decoration: none; display: inline !important; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span style="text-decoration: none; display: inline !important; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span>% export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/var/run/user/`id -u`</span><br></span></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">OK, so then I execute sway(1) and I get the lovely blue background. When I do a <code>ls /var/run</code> there's no <code>user</code> directory there. There <i>is</i> an <code>xdg</code> directory that contains the <code>id -c</code> of the user that ran sway.</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Now, I grant that I'm running 15.0-CURRENT against documentation that describes a situation post 14.1 -- but I would assume the intention is for that change to persist through 15?</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Ultimately: Is 15.0-CURRENT not matching standards established in 14.1 (in which there's a bug for 15.0-CURRENT), or is the documentation incorrect and I should open a docs bug?</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Best,</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Steven</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div> <div class="protonmail_signature_block" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> <div class="protonmail_signature_block-user"> <div>---<br></div><div><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Public Key: <a title="22BE39E2FA68D8BA8DC4B43A55A16D8CE2B036DE" href="https://22BE39E2FA68D8BA8DC4B43A55A16D8CE2B036DE"><span>22BE39E2FA68D8BA8DC4B43A55A16D8CE2B036DE</span></a><br></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);"><br></div><div>Messages from this account are considered the best-secured and most reliable. 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