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Date:      Thu, 9 May 2019 11:41:12 +0200
From:      Borja Marcos <borjam@sarenet.es>
To:        Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net>
Cc:        Walter Parker <walterp@gmail.com>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ZFS...
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> On 9 May 2019, at 00:55, Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> This is true, but I am of the thought in alignment with the zFs devs =
this might not be a good idea... if zfs can=E2=80=99t work it out =
already, the best thing to do will probably be get everything off it and =
reformat=E2=80=A6 =20

That=E2=80=99s true, I would rescue what I could and create the pool =
again but after testing the setup thoroughly.

It would be worth to have a look at the excellent guide offered by the =
FreeNAS people. It=E2=80=99s full of excellent advice and a
priceless list of =E2=80=9Cdonts=E2=80=9D such as SATA port multipliers, =
etc.=20

>=20
>> That sound not be hard to write if everything else on the disk has no
>> issues. Don't you say in another message that the system is now =
returning
>> 100's of drive errors.
>=20
> No, one disk in the 16 disk zRAID2 ...  previously unseen but it could =
be the errors have occurred in the last 6 weeks... everytime I reboot it =
started resilvering, gets to 761M resilvered and then stops.

That=E2=80=99s a really bad sign. It shouldn=E2=80=99t happen.=20

>> How does that relate the statement =3D>Everything on
>> the disk is fine except for a little bit of corruption in the =
freespace map?
>=20
> Well I think it goes through until it hits that little bit of =
corruption at stops it mounting...  then stops again..
>=20
> I=E2=80=99m seeing 100s of hard errors at the beginning of one of the =
drives.. they were reported in syslog but only just so could be a new =
thing.  Could be previously undetected.. no way to know.

As for disk monitoring, smartmontools can be pretty good although only =
as an indicator. I also monitor my systems using Orca (I wrote a crude =
=E2=80=9Cdevilator=E2=80=9D many years
ago) and I gather disk I/O statistics using GEOM of which the =
read/write/delete/flush times are very valuable. An ailing disk can be =
returning valid data but become very slow due to retries.=20





Borja.





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