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Date:      Wed, 19 Apr 2000 01:48:39 -0400 (EDT)
From:      bill@bilver.com
To:        freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Failover question/idea/hint
Message-ID:  <200004190548.BAA01467@mail.wanlogistics.net>

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I had said:

> > An old client of mine is bringing up a portal site.  They current have
> > a T1 to their location, but the site is going to be put on a server
> > at our co-location facility - which is inside an OC-48 connected facility.
> >
> > They are going to keep theri T1 and the current site as a development
> > site, but they want to be able to use that site as a fail-over site
> > in case the main site goes down.
> ...
> > I can't t see that the round-robin DNS approach would work, but if the
> > primary DNS (located at tha main site) goes down, would that be enough
> > to force it to the secondary name server - which I'm thinking could
> > point to the backup site.

> One apporoch to automatic fail over is to bind the same ip address to the
> loopback interface of 2 or more systems, at different locations, and to route
> to them with a dynamic routing protocol. In your situation, it sounds like you
> would have to use a tunnel from the one site to the other. You would then have
> redundancy for server failure, but not if your network went down, unless you
> can have the tunnel implemented some distance from the co-location facility.

Hm.  I don't know if this is possible.  We ( a friend and myself) are buidling 
a 'virtual ISP' (I don't know how to actually describe it - but all our 
equipment is inside a major transport facility where we have leased
rack space - and then we are locating customers sites/machines inside
our racks - makes sense because big-pipes have 0 mileage distance charges)

The idea is a smallish (in comparison to the big guys) ISP with
focus only on commercial/industrial type service with people who 
will respond to calls and keep things running.  

And what is 'distance' in this era?   They are physically located about
50 miles from here but a traceroute goes from Orlando to Dallas to 
south Florida to East coast Florida.  10 hops at 70ms isn't too bad
in this day and age -particulary when you look at the average
delays seen at such places at internettrafficreport.com.

The current plan is to have redundant servers in the next couple of 
months if the site gets popular. Given the backbone connections
I'm more worried about server failure than network failure.

I'm looking for any idea/directions at all.  

One other reply mentioned about having low times in the DNS so
things expire quickly - but that doesn't sound like a proper approach.

One of these days I will understand this mess.

Bill


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