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Date:      Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:06:28 -0400 (EDT)
From:      "Geoffrey C. Speicher" <geoff@sea-incorporated.com>
To:        Paul Herman <pherman@frenchfries.net>
Cc:        "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@over-yonder.net>, <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: bug in pw, -STABLE [patch]
Message-ID:  <20020623233731.L31276-100000@sea-incorporated.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020623165244.X39062-100000@mammoth.eat.frenchfries.net>

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On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Paul Herman wrote:

> You see the problem as a deficiency in the implementation itself,
> and wish to protect the user from shooting themselves in the foot.
>
> Not only do I think that's impossible[*], I choose to fight for my
> right to shoot myself in the foot as quickly and efficiently as
> possible, but that's where we'll disagree, and I'll just leave it
> at that and wish you a good night's sleep.

Not to be snooty, but there will always be plenty of ways for you to shoot
yourself in the foot if you want to play that way.  For regular users of
pw(8) who don't want to get shot, it needs to be fixed when used within
its intended bounds.

As far as I'm concerned, it comes down to what is most feasible to
implement correctly without an unreasonably large effort.  In reality, it
comes down to how a committer would like to see it work, since the
committers are the ones who ultimately have to deal with and are
responsible for the change.

So we either need to have a compelling solution or get a committer to step
in and make up our minds for us.

Geoff


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