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Date:      Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:23:42 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Michael Dillon <michael@memra.com>
To:        freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: News... 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSI.3.93.970417101106.26558p-100000@sidhe.memra.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.970417112955.11608B-100000@house.multinet.net>

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On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Graydon Hoare () wrote:

> > IMHO the solution is to clean up binaries from USENET and force people to
> > use file transfer protocols (FTP, HTTP, DCC, FSP) to transfer files.

> even though there isn't really a difference between a message and a file,

There are two clear differences. A message consists of legible text in
some language or other but a file does not. For instance Compare the two
following lines. Which is a message and which is a file?

Rira bien qui rira le dernier

MPPS"$Q//$P?##,D#Q0P'PA,&!Q(3`A$"$P,.`@[#$Q(3#Q,/PQ(#`@,"!P,"

This is readily discernible by both humans and by automated programs.

The second difference is size. A message is much shorter than a file.
Even a long message on USENET is far less bytes than the average small
file. 

So if you apply those two criteria together, i.e. have an auto-recognizer
that will delete UUencode and Base64 messages as well as delete any
message larger than a certain threshold, all you will have left is 
relatively plain text messages. They may be ASCII or ISO8859-2 or
HTML but they are messages.

> who knows? maybe usenet will someday calm down and become useful again. 

I think it can happen.


Michael Dillon                   -               Internet & ISP Consulting
Memra Software Inc.              -                  Fax: +1-250-546-3049
http://www.memra.com             -               E-mail: michael@memra.com




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