Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2025 15:32:09 -0700 From: Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> To: Colin Percival <cperciva@tarsnap.com>, FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD-pkgbase@freebsd.org Cc: Lexi Winter <ivy@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: PKGBASE upgrade from ALPHAxx to BETAxx [FreeBSD-base with enable: no planned] Message-ID: <68D98A48-2BB0-4AC9-937E-48CA87CE4960@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <77C8164A-A651-485E-9FB6-8458690D0C35@yahoo.com> References: <77C8164A-A651-485E-9FB6-8458690D0C35@yahoo.com>
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On Oct 19, 2025, at 15:00, Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote: > Colin Percival <cperciva_at_tarsnap.com> wrote on > Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 18:04:51 UTC : > >> On 10/16/25 10:49, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: >>>> Am 16.10.2025 um 19:44 schrieb Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>: >>>> To my knowledge, /etc/pkg/ only has files that are expected to >>>> apply to all systems, no matter how installed/updated. Also, >>>> the files in /etc/pkg/ are expected to not be edited. The >>>> overriding text goes in files in /usr/local/etc/pkg/respos/ >>>> instead. (Technically such are conventions, not requirements, >>>> but they fit with FreeBSD update processes in a particular way.) >>> >>> I follow that argument. >>> >>> But isn't pkgbase supposed to be the new normal starting with 15.0? >>> >>> Sorry for the noise if I confused that. Then it will land in /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf in 16? >> >> I'm planning on putting a "FreeBSD-base" repository configuration into >> /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf in 15. It will be disabled by default, in order >> to avoid "pkg delete -af" problems, but "pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD-base" >> should work out of the box. > > One thing I'll note about having a mix of enabled and > disabled repositories, with both types having installed > packages: pkg version is always going to classify some > of the installed packages as orphaned. For reference: > > # pkg version -r REPONAME . . . > > classifies everything installed from some other repository > as orphaned, no matter if that repository is enabled or > not. > > For a pkgbase context with FreeBSD-base not enabled . . . > > # pkg version . . . > > (no REPONAME) will classify everything installed from > FreeBSD-base as orphaned because it is not enabled. Turns out that pkg fetch will only fetch from enabled repositories. (This is consistent with the wording of the pkg-fetch man page.) So, with FreeBSD-base not enabled, # pkg fetch -r FreeBSD-base . . . would not fetch anything. The man pages for pkg version and pkg fetch might need some explicit notes about such overall consequences. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.comhelp
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