Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:37:29 -0800 From: <matthew@phoronix.com> To: "Adrian Chadd" <adrian@freebsd.org> Cc: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Current FreeBSD <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Igor Mozolevsky <igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk>, freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>, Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> Subject: Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server Message-ID: <20111221013733.BDE8E106566B@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <CAJ-Vmo=sJGoCnuZr40ZVHccBbhovvq=Nwzm4Z37kSd%2BjWuMNqg@mail.gmail.com>
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The benchmarks themselves are versioned. So in general most of the
av= ailable versions of PTS itself should be fine. PTS can be
considered = an execution shell that doesn't affect the benchmark
itself.
Note th= at you'll download a pile of the benchmarks, build and
install them. = Then you run about 49 individual steps.
Matthew
-- Sent from my HP Pre3
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On Dec 20, 2011 5:30 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>= ; wrote:
Is there a specific version of the test suite that = should be used,
to
compare against the published results?
Adrian
On 20 December 2011 17:18, Matthew Tippett <= ;matthew@phoronix.com>
wrote:
> For such a system, the greatest= immediate value would be to attempt
to
> reproduce the benchmarks= in question.
>
> Install PTS from www.phoronix-test-suit= e.com or freshports.org.
>
> Run the benchmark against th= ose used in the article
>
> phoronix-test-su= ite benchmark
1112113-AR-ORACLELIN37
>
> You will be aske= d to push the comparison up to openbenchmarking at
the end.
>
> Matthew
>
>
> On 12/20/2011 01:39 PM, O. = Hartmann wrote:
>>
>> On 12/20/11 21:20, Igor Mozol= evsky wrote:
>>>
>>> Interestingly, while peo= ple seem to be (arguably rightly)
focused on
>>> criticising= Phoronix's benchmarking, nobody has offered an
alternative
>>&= gt; benchmark; and while (again, arguably rightly) it is
important to
>>> benchmark real world performance, equally, nobody has offered any
>>> numbers in relation to, for example, HTTP or SMTP, = or any other
"real
>>> world"-application torture tests done= on the aforementioned
two
>>> platforms... IMO, this just g= oes to show that "doing is hard"
and
>>> "criticising is muc= h easier" (yes, I am aware of the irony
involved in
>>> maki= ng this statement, but someone has to!)
>>>
>>&g= t;
>>> Cheers,
>>> Igor M :-)
>>=
>> Unfortunately, M. Larabel is the only one who's performing benchmarks on
>> FreeBSD, comparing its performance to the Linu= x-opponents. Adn
indeed,
>> there is a lot of criticism, but no= alternative.
>> I said unfortunately - not offensive - since L= arabel and Phoronix
are
>> sadly the only ones who do actually = such bechmarking.
>>
>> It would be much more nicer= and kind to support those people.
>>
>> Well, in J= anuary/February we get new hardware. One box is
supposed to do
>&g= t; number crunching via 12 cores and a TESLA GPU. My colleague
is
>= ;> developing a high parallelized peice of software for satellite
data=
>> transformation. The software package is CPU bound, partiall= y GPU,
but
>> massively memory hungry (96 to 128 GB RAM is need= ed).
>> What I can offer is, since I will also work on that mac= hine and
I've
>> free hand to administer, in the spare time of = doing my PhD,
installing
>> FreeBSD 9.0/10.0 besides SuSe Linux= and looking forward having one
ZFS
>> data storage drive for h= omes, so both systems can perform on a
most
>> recent ZFS. I'm = new to Linux, not a BSD guru, nor I'm a
professional
>> program= mer/developer. My skills are sufficient for the daily
scientific
>= > work. So, without pressure, I'm willing to perform some HPC
benchmarks=
>> under advice if the day comes and those interested in bare numbers of
>> FreeBSD vs. Linux performance with a real-world-s= cientific
application.
>>
>> I would appreciate to = see some of the developers and/or FreeBSD
hackers
>> to help Ph= oronix setting up a proper testenvironment instead of
bashing
>>= ; M. Larabel and his fellows.
>>
>> Regards,
= >> Oliver
>>
>
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