Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:01:39 -0500 From: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" <fteg@london.com> To: "Johnson David" <davidjohnson@siemens.com>, advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Want a logo competition? Do it properly. Message-ID: <20050506200139.AD5444BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com>
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Trying to subjugate my voice into spam now? > Being ignored does not make FreeBSD "totalitarian", which was your concer= n. > Totalitarians are people with guns and police and jails and executions. T= his > isn't an authoritarian state, because there is no threat of deadly force = to > coerce you into compliance with a politician's wishes. Neither is it a > democracy, because the same lack of political authority prevents compelli= ng > you to the wishes of the majority. I know that. This is the Internet. > If it ends up that people don't like the new logo, they simply will > refuse to use it. End of story. > > > > How are they suppose to do that? :) >=20 > Simply by refusing to use it! There is nothing compelling me to use the n= ew > logo if I don't want to. If this is too hard to understand, it may be > because it's so absurdly simple that you're overlooking the obvious. If > FreeBSD Mall or DaemonNews doesn't want to use the new logo on their CD > distributions, they don't have to. If FreshPorts doesn't want to use the = new > logo on its website, it doesn't have to. You said people. I assumed regular people. People who don't own the biggest FreeBSD related websites. I can't avoid seeing the parts of my body when I use it, know what I mean? > > If the logo goes into print and production, it would be too late. >=20 > It might be "too late" in terms of an official logo. But there's nothing > that would stop the community from adopting an unofficial logo instead, > should they decide to do so. In fact, if the official logo happens to be > distasteful enough to the community, there's nothing stopping a fork from > occuring. In reality, however, the logo will probably end up being quite > satisfactory. This struck me as an official competition. And you are most right, the result should be quite satisfactory. > > Then it is me versus the logo crew. > > > > 1) I want them to open this contest for public view and voting. > > 2) I want them to acknowledge the rights of the elected designer. >=20 > To be blunt, your wants are irrelevant. Volunteerism is a two way street. > Not only is FreeBSD unable to force its logo upon you, you are also unable > to force your wishes upon the logo crew. Isn't that sort of contradictory: > Never once in its long history has the FreeBSD Project ever oppressed or > subjugated a user. I'm not forcing. I'm suggesting. Wouldn't it be more fair to everyone if everyone could participate? -- Fafa Hafiz Krantz Research Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm
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