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Date:      Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:10:36 +0200
From:      Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Tijl Coosemans <tijl@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r364113 - head/ports-mgmt/pkg
Message-ID:  <20140808091036.GC17537@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>
In-Reply-To: <20140807210734.221966e4@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org>
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On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 09:07:34PM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 19:18:15 +0200 Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 07:05:01PM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> >> On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 08:50:49 -0400 Adam Weinberger wrote:
> >>> On 6 Aug, 2014, at 1:36, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> wrote:=
=20
> >>>> On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 12:46:13AM -0400, Adam Weinberger wrote:
> >>>>> On 5 Aug, 2014, at 10:56, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> wro=
te:
> >>>>>> - Directories can be listed in the plist like files they will be
> >>>>>> considered like @dirrmtry
> >>>>>=20
> >>>>> That one is exciting! Do they still need to appear in the same way
> >>>>> (i.e. at the end of the plist, in reverse-order)?
> >>>>=20
> >>>> pkg never had this limitation :)
> >>>=20
> >>> I am constantly amazed at the tremendous progress that pkgng has
> >>> achieved. The problem is, a lot of these improvements aren=E2=80=99t =
documented
> >>> anywhere, so it=E2=80=99s hard to know what new paradigms we have at =
our
> >>> disposal!
> >>>=20
> >>> Although I suppose that until pkg_install is fully deprecated (< 1
> >>> month now, yay!), it=E2=80=99s best that we not go crazy with incompa=
tible
> >>> plist changes.
> >>=20
> >> We should probably have a discussion in September about what to do
> >> with the newly acquired freedom.  For instance, there are way too many
> >> tiny files in the ports tree that slow down subversion operations and
> >> take up way too much disk space (smallest file size on default FreeBSD
> >> install these days is 4KiB).  I think we should move distinfo into the
> >> Makefile, combine all pkg-* files into one Pkgfile (using ucl syntax
> >> maybe?) and combine patches per feature instead of one patch per file.
> >> I'd like to get rid of the files directory too, at least in most cases.
> >=20
> > That discussion needs to happen now.
>=20
> I was thinking that maybe we could wait until everybody is back from
> vacation.
>=20
> > I'll collect the idea after my return from vacations :)
> >=20
> > What I have in mind and is going to happen:
> > - remove of @exec
>=20
> If this means there'll be a lot of tiny pkg-install files then I would
> oppose this.  Just to give some stats (default FreeBSD installation):
>=20
> /usr/ports% du -k -d 0 .
> 1525248	.
> /usr/ports% du -Ak -d 0 .
> 670241	.
>=20
> This means that only about 44% of the disk space taken up by a subversion
> checkout is actual content.
>=20
Nope that means a lot of new keywords :)

regards,
Bapt

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