Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:47:08 -0400 From: "Jason" <kib@poboxes.com> To: "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak@execpc.com>, "Atipa" <freebsd@atipa.com>, <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Why we should support Microsoft... Message-ID: <019401bd8428$14aecc00$023aa8c0@kib.kib.net>
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Here's one. If it happens to MS it will happen to other platforms when they become popular. It will set a precedent that they can use later on if say FreeBSD becomes the OS of choice. Jason -----Original Message----- From: Frank Pawlak <fpawlak@execpc.com> To: Atipa <freebsd@atipa.com>; freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Date: Monday, May 18, 1998 5:40 PM Subject: Re: Why we should support Microsoft... >You obviously miss-understand the issues regarding monopolies and free >competition. Should we support Microsoft, you haven't set forth one solid >reason for it. > >Frank > > >On May 18, 11:23am, Atipa wrote: >> Subject: Why we should support Microsoft... >> >> >> <Puts on flame-retardant asbestos suit> >> >> I know I am going out on a limbe here, but I do not think the Justice >> Department should make any decisions on the software industry, and I think >> Microsoft should be allowed to ship whatever the hell it wants. >> >> We are told that this is a free, capitalistic country, but now they want >> to say it is just sort-of capitalistic? That you can make all the money >> you want, until you make too much? What kind of crap is that? >> >> I belive in economic Darwinism; that is to say, good products flourish and >> poor products wilt away. The consumer ultimately decides what sells and >> what doesn't, and not the providers. If Win98 stinks, I hope it dies and >> forces MS to make better products. But who am I to say what they should or >> should not try to do? >> >> Adding insult to this whole situation are the demands of the US >> Government. Now these are plain silly, and I applaud Bill Gates for >> telling them where to go with their suggesions: >> >> * That Microsoft disable their browser, and _all_available_means >> of accessing it. This is _almost_ reasonable, but I can >> understand the common vision of PC's as extensions to the >> Internet. To make a browser part of an OS seems like a really >> cool idea to me. Now I do agree 100% that other browsers should >> be able to operate in the new environment (eg, no MS booby traps >> or proprietary mumbo jumbo to prevent competition) >> >> * If MS does include a browser, they must also provide all >> competing products as well. Can you say horse<dung>? That is >> entirely ludicrous. To paraphrase Bill Gates, "It is like having >> to include 2 cans of Pepsi in every Coke six pack." Amen. >> As I said, take off the restrictions and let the best product >> win. As consumers, _WE_ are the ones getting hosed in this >> ordeal, not Microsoft. >> >> * MS must modify their "Window Manager" so that OEMs and >> competitors can customize their visual. How would all the >> developers of FreeBSD feel if I took a FreeBSD release, changed >> the GUI a bit, and called it AtipaOS? You would feel smited. >> Also, the continuity of the UI is the only thing that makes >> supporting this crap OS possible. If everyone had their own >> interface, providers would have a bear of a time giving >> accurate, detailed instructions. >> >> We must take a stand, and tell the Justice Deptartment to bugger off. They >> do not understand the software industry, they are setting a horrible >> precendent, and depriving the American people of free choice. >> >> They are ruining a good, competitive environment by degrading the efforts >> of the front runner, instead of promoting the laggers. We are all losing >> out. >> >> The issue to me is not whether or not Win98 is good or bad, the issue is >> freedom. I support Bill Gates in this issue, and hope you will as well. >> Hopefully, this product will fail all on its own, and open the doors to >> good programmers all over the world, without US ecomonic intervention. >> >> I hope you all can see through this junk. Liberty must be preserved. Let >> the best products win, and let MS die on its own two feet. >> >> Kevin >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message >>-- End of excerpt from Atipa > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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