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Date:      Wed, 20 May 1998 13:17:34 -0400 (EDT)
From:      The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
To:        Tom <tom@sdf.com>
Cc:        Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us>, mimo@interdata.com.pl, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@postgreSQL.org
Subject:   Re: [HACKERS] sorting big tables :(
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980520131553.14056W-100000@hub.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.95q.980520094022.12309C-100000@misery.sdf.com>

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On Wed, 20 May 1998, Tom wrote:

> 
> On Wed, 20 May 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> 
> > 	One of the things that the Unix FS does is auto-defragmenting, at
> > least the UFS one does.  Whenever the system is idle (from my
> > understanding), the kernel uses that time to clean up the file systems, to
> > reduce the file system fragmentation.
> 
>   No, that doesn't happen.  The only way to eliminate fragmentation is a
> dump/newfs/restore cycle.  UFS does do fragmentation avoidance (which is
> reason UFS filesystems have a 10% reserve).

	Okay, then we have two different understandings of this.  My
understanding was that the 10% reserve gave the OS a 'temp area' in which
to move blocks to/from so that it could defrag on the fly...

	Am CC'ng this into freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org for a "third
opinion"...am willing to admit I'm wrong *grin*



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