Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 18:49:45 +0300 From: Daniel Kalchev <daniel@digsys.bg> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? Message-ID: <4FCCD919.2080502@digsys.bg> In-Reply-To: <BABF8C57A778F04791343E5601659908236C1B@cinip100ntsbs.irtnog.net> References: <CAOgwaMvsv3e1TxDauV038Pp7LRiYeH7oAODE%2Bw-pxHt9oGrXMA@mail.gmail.com><20120601121555.GF5335@home.opsec.eu> <4FC8B67D.5090208@digsys.bg><31DFBF41-37EC-43CF-A555-2D4E46F1F6E2@ee.ryerson.ca> <C2524FC6-5575-4573-84A3-AA35768B0648@digsys.bg> <BABF8C57A778F04791343E5601659908236C1B@cinip100ntsbs.irtnog.net>
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On 04.06.12 18:04, xenophon\+freebsd wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >> stable@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Kalchev >> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 12:42 AM >> >> I really see no reason why your 'mail or calendaring server' >> should be able to wipe your devices.. This is the sort of bloat >> that keeps me away. From Microsoft products. > I don't think that's fair to say. Email/calendaring seems to be the > only connection point between a smartphone and an organization for at > least the current crop of devices (although I'm sure that at some point > soon, you'll be able to include organizational file servers as well). Again, what does your e-mail or calendaring service have to do with wiping your device clean?? Wiping the device is task for your device management platform, which does not belong to the e-mail or calendaring platform. If you connect your desktop to Exchange, is it supposed to be wiped too? What if the Exchange account is just one of the many e-mail accounts you use, as typically is the case? > Even if you're just a SOHO or SMB, you should want to be able to locate > or remotely wipe a device that's stolen, if only to ensure that someone > doesn't have access to potentially sensitive personal information. Oh > and by the way, not only do the Windows phones feature this, but so do > the iPhones and the Android handsets - so this isn't just Microsoft. I understand you don't like it, but apparently Apple got this right. They have device management tool that is in no way ties to your e-mail or calendaring server. Not only Apple, but any sane vendor too. It is not excuse that because some (censored) at Microsoft has designed things this way, there are no other proper ways. >> In this regard I rather prefer the way Apple handles things. >> Shiny wrapper interface to pretty much generic technology. No >> reinvention of the wheel and experiments to see if it can be made >> square. > You can't damn Microsoft for being too proprietary in one paragraph and > then praise Apple for its openness in the next. Does not compute. I don't care how proprietary an proprietary thing is. If it is correctly implemented, it is ok, if it is not correctly implemented, it is not ok. Microsoft's "wipe trough Exchange" is weird, to put it mildly. Apple too had a track record of doing many proprietary things, but in recent years their offerings are, as I mentioned earlier, pretty much generic standard and widespread protocols with a lot of sugar coating. Daniel
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