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Date:      Mon, 8 Mar 2004 12:22:10 -0800
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
To:        Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net>
Cc:        Andre Oppermann <andre@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: My planned work on networking stack
Message-ID:  <20040308202210.GB485@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>
In-Reply-To: <20040308182431.4FA6D5D08@ptavv.es.net>
References:  <404BA723.C8141806@freebsd.org> <20040308182431.4FA6D5D08@ptavv.es.net>

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On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 10:24:31AM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> > Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 23:50:11 +0100
> > From: Andre Oppermann <andre@freebsd.org>
> > Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org
> >=20
> > David Malone wrote:
> > >=20
> > > On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 11:18:34PM +0100, Andre Oppermann wrote:
> > > >  [] automatically sizing TCP send buffers to achieve optimal perfor=
mance
> > > >     over a wide range of bw*delay situations.  (in progress)
> > >=20
> > > Hi Andre,
> > >=20
> > > This reminded me - do you know what happened to the plan to implement
> > > SACK for FreeBSD? I'm working with a research group that's interested
> > > in new high speed TCP techniques and they'd prefer to work with
> > > FreeBSD, but they've been using Linux 'cos they need SACK. They
> > > might actually be interested in spending some time implementing it,
> > > if we weren't going to be clashing with anytone else.
> >=20
> > I don't know of any current project or effort to implement SACK on
> > FreeBSD.  It is not on my todo list and it doesn't fit there.  But
> > I'm available if someone wants to discuss specifics and implementation
> > details.
>=20
> I know that our organization would love to see SACK. Much of the
> high-performance network development that used to be on FreeBSD has
> moved to Linux simply because SACK is essential. You can't run
> trans-oceanic TCP streams of gigabit or more throughput without it.
>=20
> Unfortunately, SACK is often looked upon as a waste of effort to those
> who use nets in more commercial forms where aggregation of lots of small
> streams is how fat pipes are used. Research big science are about the
> only ones who have a real need for this kind of performance and it's
> growing fast. Without SACK, FreeBSD will be a non-starter for these
> purposes.=20

I've got a co-worker who is part of a research group at ISI that
is doing research on long fat pipes with large streams.  They are
intrested in doing a SACK implementation.  I hope to have some more
information later this week.

-- Brooks

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