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Date:      Mon, 1 May 2023 02:45:56 +0200
From:      Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>
To:        Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info>
Cc:        Matthew Grooms <mgrooms@shrew.net>, Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@freebsd.org>,  Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>,  Virtualisation on FreeBSD <freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org>, elenamihailescu22@gmail.com,  Mihai Carabas <mihai.carabas@gmail.com>, gusev.vitaliy@gmail.com
Subject:   Re: BHYVE_SNAPSHOT
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whats the meaning of o_O ?

Il lun 1 mag 2023, 02:04 Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info> ha scritto:

> o_O
>
> --
> CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
>
> On Sun, Apr 30, 2023, 23:42 Matthew Grooms <mgrooms@shrew.net> wrote:
>
>> On 4/29/23 06:17, void wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Where can I read up about the recently introduced BHYVE_SNAPSHOT ?
>> >
>> > I can only find terse information about what it does (in man 5 src.conf)
>> > but not about how to use it and/or why.
>>
>> This began as sponsored student work with the Politehnica University of
>> Bucharest back in 2016 with an eye toward developing Live MIgration as a
>> feature. The initial bhyve save/restore patch was committed back in 2020
>> ...
>>
>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/rS360648
>>
>> Student projects related to bhyve continued until last year, but we gave
>> up due to there being such a massive accumulation of patches with no
>> path to getting them committed. We tried reaching out to project
>> maintainers and the FreeBSD foundation alike for support and feedback,
>> but there seems to be little to no interest. There have also been
>> attempts by companies that rely on these features to and get them
>> improved and committed. Unfortunately they don't appear to be having
>> much luck either ...
>>
>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D38858#885651
>>
>> Would you like to see support for VM snapshots in the generic kernel?
>> How about support for saving/restore checkpoints using QCOW2, VMDK via
>> libvdsk? How about support for warm or live migration? How about USB
>> device pass-through? There are experimental patches for all these
>> features that were developed by students at UPB. In a lot of cases,
>> there are open reviews that have been waiting on feedback for ages. Here
>> is a a presentation given by Elena from UPB just last month at the
>> FreeBSD devsumit in Tokyo ...
>>
>>
>> https://wiki.freebsd.org/DevSummit/202303?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Presentation+-+bhyvecon.pdf
>>
>> The case is quite plain. I'm not sure what the solution is to this
>> problem. I'd love to hear feedback from the community about how I've got
>> this completely wrong and how the course could be corrected. That would
>> be something.
>>
>> -Matthew
>>
>>
>>
>>

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<div dir="auto">whats the meaning of o_O ?</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il lun 1 mag 2023, 02:04 Tomek CEDRO &lt;<a href="mailto:tomek@cedro.info">tomek@cedro.info</a>&gt; ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">o_O<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">--<br>CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, <a href="http://www.tomek.cedro.info" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.tomek.cedro.info</a></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Apr 30, 2023, 23:42 Matthew Grooms &lt;<a href="mailto:mgrooms@shrew.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mgrooms@shrew.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 4/29/23 06:17, void wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Where can I read up about the recently introduced BHYVE_SNAPSHOT ?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I can only find terse information about what it does (in man 5 src.conf)<br>
&gt; but not about how to use it and/or why.<br>
<br>
This began as sponsored student work with the Politehnica University of <br>
Bucharest back in 2016 with an eye toward developing Live MIgration as a <br>
feature. The initial bhyve save/restore patch was committed back in 2020 ...<br>
<br>
<a href="https://reviews.freebsd.org/rS360648" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://reviews.freebsd.org/rS360648</a><br>;
<br>
Student projects related to bhyve continued until last year, but we gave <br>
up due to there being such a massive accumulation of patches with no <br>
path to getting them committed. We tried reaching out to project <br>
maintainers and the FreeBSD foundation alike for support and feedback, <br>
but there seems to be little to no interest. There have also been <br>
attempts by companies that rely on these features to and get them <br>
improved and committed. Unfortunately they don&#39;t appear to be having <br>
much luck either ...<br>
<br>
<a href="https://reviews.freebsd.org/D38858#885651" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://reviews.freebsd.org/D38858#885651</a><br>;
<br>
Would you like to see support for VM snapshots in the generic kernel? <br>
How about support for saving/restore checkpoints using QCOW2, VMDK via <br>
libvdsk? How about support for warm or live migration? How about USB <br>
device pass-through? There are experimental patches for all these <br>
features that were developed by students at UPB. In a lot of cases, <br>
there are open reviews that have been waiting on feedback for ages. Here <br>
is a a presentation given by Elena from UPB just last month at the <br>
FreeBSD devsumit in Tokyo ...<br>
<br>
<a href="https://wiki.freebsd.org/DevSummit/202303?action=AttachFile&amp;do=view&amp;target=Presentation+-+bhyvecon.pdf" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.freebsd.org/DevSummit/202303?action=AttachFile&amp;do=view&amp;target=Presentation+-+bhyvecon.pdf</a><br>;
<br>
The case is quite plain. I&#39;m not sure what the solution is to this <br>
problem. I&#39;d love to hear feedback from the community about how I&#39;ve got <br>
this completely wrong and how the course could be corrected. That would <br>
be something.<br>
<br>
-Matthew<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div>
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