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Date:      Sun, 13 Nov 2016 11:24:43 +0100
From:      "O. Hartmann" <ohartmann@walstatt.org>
To:        "Andrey V. Elsukov" <ae@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        "O. Hartmann" <ohartmann@walstatt.org>, karels@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD CURRENT <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, glebius@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: was: CURRENT [r308087] still crashing: Backtrace provided
Message-ID:  <20161113112443.6c52ed9a@thor.walstatt.dynvpn.de>
In-Reply-To: <4f23664d-f3bc-e7c7-e529-92b84a4dcd37@FreeBSD.org>
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Am Sun, 13 Nov 2016 12:41:07 +0300
"Andrey V. Elsukov" <ae@FreeBSD.org> schrieb:

> On 13.11.2016 12:23, O. Hartmann wrote:
> >>>>> Great, thank you. I would first like to confirm that r307234 is ind=
eed
> >>>>> causing the crash - since it appears to be easy to trigger, that sh=
ould
> >>>>> be faster. If not, the core will help track down the real problem. =
  =20
> >>>>
> >>>> Although I was under the impression the in-kernel-config option
> >>>>
> >>>> makeoptions    DEBUG=3D-g
> >>>>
> >>>> would make debugging symbols available, I'm proved wrong.   =20
> >>
> >> Do you have option FLOWTABLE in your kernel config? =20
> >=20
> > Would you suggest to disable this feature in the kernel? Or does the fe=
ature, by
> > accident, influence the debugging ?? =20
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> I never used FLOWTABLE, but as I know, when L2 caching was reintroduced
> the kernel with enabled FLOWTABLE has started crashing almost
> immediately. glebius@ added workaround in r300854 to prevent the panic.
> Then we discussed with him that the change in in_pcb.c should be
> reasonable. And he decided to revert the workaround. Now it seems
> without r300854 FLOWTABLE isn't usable.
>=20

All right. At this very moment I compile a most recent world and kernel WIT=
HOUT the
option FLOWTABLE. It takes a lot(!) of time to revert the whole system to t=
he working
r307233 again (we figured out, that r307234 triggers the crashes so far).

The interesting thing to me is that the crash occured on all platforms/Inte=
l architectures
I use and maintain immediately after r307233 and it lasted for at least r30=
7884
(approx.), that was, when I reverted everything to r307157 (the point from =
which I
started non-crahsing). Now, I have several relatively modern systems (noreb=
ooks with
Haswell Mobile CPU, XEON Haswell Workstation and Skylake XEON Servers, AMD =
Jaguar based
PCEngines APU 2C4) with FLOWTABLE enabled and with most recent CURRENT - wi=
thout a crash
in days under heavy load (network I/O) and poudriere builds - without issue=
s. But
everything I have in my hands with IvyBridge (XEON, consumer grade CPUs) an=
d lower (one
Intel Core2Duo 2-socket server) is crashing with CURRENT beyond r307233. Ma=
ybe I oversee
the different internal cash architectures and probably optimization problem.

Anyway, this just to repeat for the records ;-)

I'll give notice after my boxes have been compiled to most recent CURRENT w=
ith
FLOWTABLES.

Thanks and kinf regards,

Oliver=20

--=20
O. Hartmann

Ich widerspreche der Nutzung oder =C3=9Cbermittlung meiner Daten f=C3=BCr
Werbezwecke oder f=C3=BCr die Markt- oder Meinungsforschung (=C2=A7 28 Abs.=
 4 BDSG).

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