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Date:      Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:45:25 -0500
From:      Ben Kaduk <minimarmot@gmail.com>
To:        Alexander Motin <mav@freebsd.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Annoying whitenoise sound coming from snd_hda enabled chipset
Message-ID:  <47d0403c0902241045g73b4068fp4a1032e51f752f0e@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Alexander Motin <mav@freebsd.org> wrote:
> Ben Kaduk wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Ben Kaduk <minimarmot@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Alexander Motin <mav@freebsd.org> wrot=
e:
>>>>
>>>> Garrett Cooper wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> =A0 I don't know how else to describe it, but when I turn up my
>>>>> speakers enough (50%+) and don't have any sound playing, I hear a
>>>>> whitenoise hiss coming out of them. When I change webpages (nvidia
>>>>> driver is GIANT locked) or do something else kernel intensive it stop=
s
>>>>> for a brief second, but apart from that it's an annoying trill sound
>>>>> almost like a mosquito humming around me waiting to be swatted.
>>>>
>>>> I think it may be radio interference with disconnected microphone
>>>> inputs.
>>>> Try to set all unneeded mixer volumes to 0, especially mic, monitor,
>>>> speaker
>>>> and mix. Inputs often have too sensitive 20-30dB pre-amplifiers. Some
>>>> codecs
>>>> have them on all inputs.
>>>
>>> It's hard to be sure, since I'm not sure that I could describe what I
>>> hear any better than Garret did, but I think I'm seeing the same sort
>>> of thing on my work desktop. =A0I'll try setting unneeded volumes to
>>> zero the next time I'm in, and see if that helps.
>>>
>>> dmesg and pciconf are available here:
>>> http://stuff.mit.edu/afs/sipb.mit.edu/user/kaduk/freebsd/periphrasis/
>>
>> I'm still getting the noise, even with these mixer settings:
>> periphrasis# mixer
>> Mixer vol =A0 =A0 =A0is currently set to =A025:25
>> Mixer pcm =A0 =A0 =A0is currently set to =A025:25
>> Mixer speaker =A0is currently set to =A0 0:0
>> Mixer mix =A0 =A0 =A0is currently set to =A0 0:0
>> Mixer rec =A0 =A0 =A0is currently set to =A0 0:0
>> Mixer monitor =A0is currently set to =A0 0:0
>> Recording source:
>
> You have set vol and pcm to 25. They are measured not in percents now, th=
ere
> are a logarithmic scales inside codec, so, depending on model, 25 may mea=
n
> something like -30dB, when you will be able to hear codec's native noise
> margin, which can quite high cheap codecs and cheap boards.
>
> Set your mixer to 80-100 and reduce volume on you speakers/amplifier.
>

Sadly, I am using headphones, with no additional amplification.

I think I was using the same or similar mixer settings in the old world ord=
er,
with the same loudness at my ear.  I would be surprised if the
change to logarithmic scale is solely responsible for this noise, but it
is plausible ...

-Ben Kaduk



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