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Date:      Sun, 15 Jul 2001 02:39:39 -0700
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        "Mit Rowe" <mitayai@branchmedia.com>, <freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: 
Message-ID:  <003b01c10d12$117f1c80$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <DBEMKGPNFGOGJHLMDNDJKEEBCFAA.mitayai@branchmedia.com>

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Don't waste your time.  Chili!soft is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Sun
Microsystems.  It serves Sun's purposes to have a Linux port of Chilisoft
because Linux is not currently and probably will never be stable and
scalable enough to run on the really large sites.  This means that ISP's
that go down the Chili-on-Linux route if they keep getting bigger will
eventually have to migrate to Solaris for the stability.

FreeBSD on the other hand is stable enough to be used on the really large
sites.  If Sun releases ASP for FreeBSD using Chilisoft then ISP's that
go the Chili-on-FreeBSD route will never have incentive to "upgrade"
to Solaris.

It would probably also be instructive to examine the Sun annual report
and the SEC filings to see if revenue from Chili is broken out.  (I would
think that it would have to be since they are a subsidiary)  I would guess
that if you did that you would find that Chili!Soft isn't profitable for
Sun.  As a result, they probably aren't that interested in expanding
it into new markets.  A look at the job postings on Chili's website seems
to confirm this - there's no postings for technical or programmer types,
this indicates that their just in maintainence mode on the software.  In
fact all they are looking for is a marketing person - so what you have here
is a company that's currently only interested in expanding marketing,
not technical development.  That's a fairly good indicator that they
are attempting to build sales on the existing product line and are not
at the current time interested in expanding into new markets.

If I were you I'd excuse the unstability crack on the Chilisoft support
forum.  The person that made that remark is just a support tech, they are not
the people in that company who determines what platforms that the Chili
software supports.  What is most likely is that they threw that out because
they want all the BSD people to go away and quit bothering them because
they have probably been told by their bosses to focus on supporting the
existing markets - ie: Linux and Solaris - and not to spend time responding to
people who they can't sell anything to.  Don't take it personally it's just
business.

Ted Mittelstaedt                                       tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:                           The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
Book website:                          http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com


>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mit Rowe
>Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 12:43 PM
>To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject:
>
>
>http://www.chilisoft.com/forum/getthread.asp?searchmydate=All&recordnumber=1
>5605&curID=15605&mydate=30&threadnumber=6810&threadname=Chili%21Soft+General
>+Support&threadtopic=ASP+and+FreeBSD&search=yes
>
>
>
>
>"ASP and FreeBSD ChiliSoft Tech  04/19/01
>
>At this time FreeBSD is just too unstable for ChiliSoft to support. We are
>still investigating a release for FreeBSD, but everything is preliminary at
>this point. I don't see FreeBSD support happening in the near future. Well,
>not until a stable version is released.
>
>-ChiliSoft Tech"
>
>I consider this a challenge. How about you?
>
>
>
>
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