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Date:      Fri, 26 Feb 2021 20:32:26 +0100
From:      Gordon Bergling <gbe@freebsd.org>
To:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        Gordon Bergling <gbe@freebsd.org>, Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: HEADS-UP: PIE enabled by default on main
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On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 08:57:55PM +0200, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 07:34:03PM +0100, Gordon Bergling wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 03:58:07PM -0500, Ed Maste wrote:
> > > As of 9a227a2fd642 (main-n245052) base system binaries are now built
> > > as position-independent executable (PIE) by default, for 64-bit
> > > architectures. PIE executables are used in conjunction with address
> > > randomization as a mitigation for certain types of security
> > > vulnerabilities.
> > >=20
> > > If you track -CURRENT and normally build WITHOUT_CLEAN you'll need to
> > > do one initial clean build -- either run `make cleanworld` or set
> > > WITH_CLEAN=3Dyes.
> > >=20
> > > No significant user-facing changes are expected from this change, but
> > > there are some minor ones. For example, `file` will indicate that
> > > binaries are PIE by reporting something like `ELF 64-bit LSB pie
> > > executable` rather than `ELF 64-bit LSB executable`. Also, for most
> > > workloads no notable performance impact is expected.
> > >=20
> > > For almost all ports this should result in no change. There are a
> > > small number of ports that use base system /usr/share/mk
> > > infrastructure and thus inherit the base system default, and some of
> > > those initially failed to build. Those found during an exp-run in
> > > PR253275 have been addressed or have patches waiting.
> > >=20
> > > Please watch out for any new issues after you next update the base
> > > system and/or ports, and report issues via a Bugzilla PR or in reply
> > > here.
> >=20
> > Thats a huge step forward in terms on security.
> Can you explain why?
>=20
> Thanks.

I can try. Enabling PIE for every 64bit architecture is in that matter a st=
ep
forward in security as it enables ASLR for further adoption.

Thank You, again.

--Gordon

> > Thanks for the efforts and anyone involved.

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