Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:48:07 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org> To: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> Cc: myevmenk@exodus.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netgraph and KQUEUE(2) Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0211061245450.726-100000@InterJet.elischer.org> In-Reply-To: <20021106.125555.20031393.imp@bsdimp.com>
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On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0211060942270.1013-100000@InterJet.elischer.org> > Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org> writes: > : > : > : On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote: > : > : > : 1) Device driver in Netgraph node. When hardware is > : > : activated new Netgraph node is created and new > : > : kevent sent. devd (or something like devd) listens > : > : for these events and does something (loads firmware, > : > : activates device, etc.) > : > > : > Device drivers are not netgraph nodes. They will have a device_t > : > associated with them, which already sends a message via /dev/devctl to > : > devd. You can do anything you want with the results. There's no need > : > to reinvent the wheel that I'm almost done inventing. There's > : > absolutely no need to bring netgraph into it all, and doing so makes > : > it a less generic implementation. > : > : devices that are netgraph nodes may not have any entry in /dev > : and might only appear in the netgraph namespace.. > : e.g. if_ar.c if_sr.c > > It doesn't matter. *ALL* devices have device_t entries. Recall that > device_t is not dev_t. dev_t appears in /dev/. Hardware devices have > to attach to some bus. That's why devd is done in newbus land rather > than in dev_t land. Ok but there cound be netgraph nodes that have no hardware but could be called into creation by some external event. e.g. a netgraph hook on a pseudointerface like gif or tun. (not at present but a possibility I was looking at last week) > > Warner > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message
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