Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:33:51 -0600 From: Brent Randolph <buzzcut@ipa.net> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Slackware vs FreeBSD, aswell as my opinion on this list. Message-ID: <22335260901104@buzzcut.ipa.net> In-Reply-To: <19980321090711.05316@welearn.com.au> References: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980320143420.4082A-100000@engulf.com> <199803201924.LAA24385@unx1.omnicode.com> <Pine.BSF.3.96.980320143420.4082A-100000@engulf.com>
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>I like the FreeBSD support better. There's less of it, but you know what
>kind of people it's coming from. We're lucky to have them all hanging out in
>freebsd-questions so that there's one place to go for reliable answers. With
>Linux, I always had to ask six different people and take the average of
>their responses. My computer didn't always understand these averages, and
>then it was back to all six of them again.
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ya know, you're right, there is less of it, but I have found that the
difference between talking to linux junkies and freebsd junkies is that the
freebsd's are usually 1) much nicer, 2) more knowledgeable, and 3) more
abundant in higher end ISPs :) I do have to give kudos to Wayne Self (if
he's on /this/ list) for the help he's given me. I don't have much time to
learn it by constantly reading, and Wayne (who is employed by Walnut Creek)
had the pleasure of helping me. He's a former employee of mine if you're
wondering :)
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>Do newbies have any existence, any interests, apart from those times when
>they are asking someone more experienced for help? Those who do will find
>likeminded souls here and still have the opportunity to use the regular list
>when they need support. Those who don't will be much happier restricting
>themselves to freebsd-questions instead of using both. We don't all have to
>like the same things.
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heh...I think I'll stick to ONE list for freebsd :) Seems 100+
messages/day isn't enough, so why not subscribe to this one :)
>newbie's idea of what makes sense is not enough to give good guidance.
>And once we newbies find out what we _can_ do with the manuals it'll become
>clearer what it is that we can't do with them the way they are now.
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one could say "if you wanna learn it /all/ like a pro, buy an oreilly's or
sams net book, if you wanna learn it /all/ like a newbie, get the
handbook"...of course, one could also say "if you wanna learn /some/ of it
like an idiot, buy 'freebsd for dummies'..."if there was one :) My idea of
the handbook and manuals are something that is written for a true newbie.
Imagine me, hacking (my own) Windows for speed and effeciency, then getting
bored (face it, it's easy with Windows) and trying something else...had it
not been for friends and co-workers, I would have been perplexed by /some/
(not all) of the handbook. There were parts that told me to do one thing,
only to find out that last week it was replaced by another. IE, setting up
sound...type this, but what if it's a non plug n play SB16? Where was the
part in the handbook for installing the midi drivers. I didn't see sbxvi0
or sbmidi0 mentioned anywhere...till Wayne said "oh, you /have/ to do
this... :(
>Here's an example. The same day I installed I read up on how to build a new
>kernel, using the handbook and FAQ together. I followed the instructions,
>and voila! New kernel! No worries! Nervewracking, but it worked well. Months
>later I was still trying to figure out how to do simple things like install
>ports.
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is this something we /all/ have in common? Same thing with me :) well,
'cept for sound :)
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Brent buzzcut@ipa.net
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"My occupation, I suppose, is jail inmate."
--Theodore Kaczynski
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