Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 21:11:58 +1030 From: "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au> To: Jo Rhett <jrhett@svcolo.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, current <current@freebsd.org>, Peter Jeremy <PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au>, stable@freebsd.org, K?vesd?n G?bor <gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Update is the binary update solution [Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006] Message-ID: <200601052112.09446.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> In-Reply-To: <20060105093220.GJ1358@svcolo.com> References: <43A266E5.3080103@samsco.org> <200512231126.51500.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20060105093220.GJ1358@svcolo.com>
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--nextPart4565128.1sz4yHWUgZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 20:02, Jo Rhett wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 11:26:44AM +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > How do you expect these two to be handled in a binary upgrade? > > I can't see how it's possible.. > > Look around. Every major commercial OS does it just fine. Most of the > open source OSes do it just fine. Debian had probably the easiest to use > system, and they've risen, owned the world and fallen all while FreeBSD h= as > been debating this issue. You appear to be misunderstanding what I said. I'm not arguing binary upgrades shouldn't be done but I'm suggesting that i= t=20 isn't NECESSARY to version and package the base install to do it. > > I don't think integrating it with the core OS (whatever that means) will > > magically fix this. > > If you knew what it meant, you would understand why it would help. Ah what a great explanation of what is meant. There are several people who don't know what is meant here and I haven't se= en=20 a decent explanation forthcoming. > > Not having run jails I am not very qualified to comment > > Exactly. Sorry, not trying to be rude but if you have never felt the pain > don't try and say it doesn't exist. Just because I don't run jails doesn't mean I don't know the pain of upgrad= ing=20 a system. =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart4565128.1sz4yHWUgZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBDvPgB5ZPcIHs/zowRAptBAJ9nSXeZUYkCicFxhv5CrNcuAQ7e/gCdFTXh oT226YogorSiHAgu2EmN0hs= =SGCC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4565128.1sz4yHWUgZ--
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