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Date:      Thu, 24 May 2018 11:45:11 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Dan Mahoney (Gushi)" <freebsd@gushi.org>
To:        Pete Wright <pete@nomadlogic.org>
Cc:        Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail.com>, FreeBSD <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>, rde@tavi.co.uk, 000.fbsd@quip.cz
Subject:   Re: Pause pkg install messages
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.20.1805241142560.2459@prime.gushi.org>
In-Reply-To: <e05e2fb7-7fb4-c954-c5ca-a1cd8cbb0484@nomadlogic.org>
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On Thu, 24 May 2018, Pete Wright wrote:

>
>
> On 05/24/2018 02:46, Johannes Lundberg wrote:
>>=20
>>> If you need to re-show message of any installed package, "pkg info -D"
>>> (or pkg info --pkg-message) is your friend. Nothing is lost. You can
>>> view it anytime.
>>>=20
>> If you're in virtualbox on a laptop, you seldom have scroll lock unless =
you
>> map it manually (which is not easy to know how to do).
>> And, yes you can review the messages later but how do you know which of =
the
>> 100's of package had important messages for you?
>>=20
>> Often when I install 100's of package I walk away from the computer and
>> when I come back all the messages except the very last one or two have
>> scrolled by.
>> I think we should have a pager that says something like "please carefull=
y
>> read through these messages", halt the output and let's you scroll one p=
age
>> or pkg at the time.
>>=20
>> Even better, a Y/N question asking the user if they want configuration t=
o
>> be done for them where it makes sense (but that's a bigger project).
>>=20
> I think having pkg output something along the lines of "missed important=
=20
> messages or want to view them again, run pkg info -D at any time.=C2=A0 h=
ere's the=20
> list of pkgs we just installed:" would be a good improvement.
>
> it would encourage people to get more comfortable with the pkg tool itsel=
f=20
> while not changing the default behaviour that experienced admins/users ha=
ve=20
> gotten used to.

All FreeBSD systems by default come set up with the expectation that=20
you (the admin) are going to receive mail from cron and periodic.  I'd opt=
=20
to also email this, on by default, but turn-offable.

FWIW, I believe this is also what Debian does.

Best,

-Dan

--=20

"It would be bad."

-Egon Spengler, "Ghostbusters"

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