Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 12:38:27 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org> To: David Pick <D.M.Pick@qmw.ac.uk> Cc: security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Displacement of Blame[tm] Message-ID: <20000714123827.A64184@mithrandr.moria.org> In-Reply-To: <E13D2as-0006Yk-00@xi.css.qmw.ac.uk>; from D.M.Pick@qmw.ac.uk on Fri, Jul 14, 2000 at 11:21:18AM %2B0100 References: <20000714120932.A63784@mithrandr.moria.org> <E13D2as-0006Yk-00@xi.css.qmw.ac.uk>
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On Fri 2000-07-14 (11:21), David Pick wrote: > > On Fri 2000-07-14 (10:53), David Pick wrote: > > > A little shorter: > > > <port> FreeBSD Port Security Advisory <advisory number> > > > > This will still be counted by automated advisory things, which was one > > of the stated problems. > > Depends on how they classify the text; if they use only the first > word then this statement is true. I don't think you understand. The stated problem is that people are automatically counting advisories based on false assumptions. > > > > Alternatively: > > > FreeBSD Port of <port>: Security Advisory <advisory number> > > > > > > > This will still be counted by automated advisory things, which was one > > of the stated problems. > > Ditto. See above. Existing advisories have: FreeBSD Ports Security Advisory: FreeBSD-SA-00:26.popper If people are going to make false assumptions, then they're going to do so. They _can_ be shown that "FreeBSD Ports" is not a base system problem as easily as we can shown them that "FreeBSD Port of <port>" or "mumble: FreeBSD Port Advisory" is not in the base system. Your suggestion that "FreeBSD Port of <port>: Security Advisory" is just as likely to get misunderstood as being a security problem with only the software on FreeBSD, or in the porting procedure to FreeBSD. Currently, we can either acknowledge that people who don't care to understand will never understand, or we can obscure our topics more and more to get past the latest person who didn't care to understand. > But I suspect no form of words will satisy everyone. Perhaps after a > few more people have put their heads above the parapet and actually > made suggestions an election would be in order. Elections on mailing lists don't work. How long do you wait? Who is your electorate? People who want the status quo generally don't vote. People will subscribe from the list. And so forth. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message
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