Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 07:56:43 -0600 From: "Jacques A. Vidrine" <n@nectar.cc> To: Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firewall config non-intuitiveness Message-ID: <20020128135643.GH33952@madman.nectar.cc> In-Reply-To: <20020128064925.GA1180@raggedclown.net> References: <20020127220923.B1494@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> <20020127134511.Q81780-100000@rockstar.stealthgeeks.net> <20020128064925.GA1180@raggedclown.net>
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On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 07:49:25AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 02:50:50PM -0800, Patrick Greenwell wrote: > > At this point I'm rather reticent to even bother submitting anything to > > the "security officer" role as Warner has indicated that he's part of that > > role and will speak out against it in the name of security. I'm not a > > member of the inner circle, just a long-time user who saw some confusing > > behavior and thought that there was an opportunity to fix it. Warner's not the only member of the Security Officer Team. If you actually feel there is a problem, please write it up concisely. I have only seen vague arguments here (probably because I missed the beginning of the thread), and couldn't make a judgement. I'm sure others are in the same position. > I think you were quite right to, and I think you are right. > But you are fighting the forces of reaction here, in my view. > This whole thread has been a very depressing reflection on the > inability of any of the people arguing against you to make > any coherent argument against changing something to make sense. > > This is just conservative status-quoism gone mad. > > You are not alone in finding the current wording and behaviour > of this feature inconsistent, and initially incoherent. > > Perhaps we are just too dumb. Or perhaps there has been no effective case made for a change. Cheers, -- Jacques A. Vidrine <n@nectar.cc> http://www.nectar.cc/ NTT/Verio SME . FreeBSD UNIX . Heimdal Kerberos jvidrine@verio.net . nectar@FreeBSD.org . nectar@kth.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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