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Date:      Mon, 6 Sep 1999 20:29:27 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Brett Taylor <brett@peloton.runet.edu>
To:        Ben Smithurst <ben@scientia.demon.co.uk>
Cc:        Chuck Robey <chuckr@picnic.mat.net>, FreeBSD-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Linux install
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9909062021070.1587-100000@peloton.runet.edu>
In-Reply-To: <19990906224653.B18294@lithium.scientia.demon.co.uk>

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Hi,

On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, Ben Smithurst wrote:

> They probably put emacs and all their bloated crappy window manglers
> in /bin or something. Little niggling things as well, like needing
> three CDs for a "base" system, when you can get a FreeBSD base system
> from just CD1.

One of the previous machines I admin'ed was, for about 2 days while I was
in charge of it, a RedHat box (it'd been cracked and I was asked to come
in and clean things up - so I put FreeBSD on it).

Anyway, one of the things I noticed was that almost _all_ software
binaries (X and console both) got installed in /usr/bin.  I'm not joking
at all - there were maybe 50 things in /usr/X11R6/bin and maybe another 50
in /usr/local/bin.  Everything else was buried in /usr/bin (ls | wc -w
gave me about 2500 or so in /usr/bin).  Cripes.  Why is anyone's guess,
but I had no clue as to why but only a few of the X apps (and I think
these were typically xbiff, xterm - base X stuff) were installed in
/usr/X11R6/bin less yet all of the stuff that, IMO, should have been in
/usr/local/bin.

I was plenty happy to move that machine to FreeBSD and it's been happy
ever since (and the box is still running along fine!).

BTW, it got hacked because the previous "admin" left all of the lovely
default daemons running (like innd, httpd, etc).  Funny that he didn't
even bother to shut off innd and its brethen since all it did then was
serve up email.  Note I assume they were default because I figured the guy
wouldn't try to start up a news server on a small dept machine.  The
version of Apache was 1.0 (hopelessly outdated even then) and they got in
through the PHF bug which had been closed a long time previous to that.

Brett
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